I know this is typical for the US so this is more for US people to respond to. I wouldn’t say that it is the best system for work, just wondering about the disconnect.

  • @z00s
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    81 year ago

    If you didn’t learn that stuff, that’s on your parents, not your teachers. They’re not there to raise you.

    • @[email protected]
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      161 year ago

      Not all parents are equal. It’d be cool if we valued our young, regardless of from whom they came from. Nobody gets to decide whether to be born or not, but they’re still forced to accept the terms of service.

      Maybe we should try to value… people?.. in general? But who honestly gives a fuck, I got too much on my own plate to really think about it anyway

      • @z00s
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        01 year ago

        That’s why they’re all entitled to a free education in most modern democracies.

        Unfortunately not all parents are equal, that’s true. But there’s not much that can be done about that which child protection agencies don’t already cover.

        Teachers can’t raise their students.

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          11 year ago

          I agree that teachers can’t/shouldn’t have to raise students, and I believe most teachers would agree. But it ends up happening all of the time because a lot of people want to help as best they can. The teachers who do go the extra mile(s) shouldn’t have to be put in that situation to begin with. And the teachers who do their job well and nothing else, shouldn’t be shamed. It’s a societal problem that doesn’t have to be… but we’d rather blame “work ethic” and “this new generation”, than invest in the underlying issues. And that same rhetoric has been happening for probably over a century (at the very least)

          Saying “CPS already covers what we can’t really change” is a farcry from actuality. Do you think social work is a prestigious position? If you do, are they funded and compensated appropriately? If people are just “popping babies out of their vagina” and expecting help to raise them; why do we work so hard to undermine the autonomy of a woman’s choice to give birth in the first place? And if “every life matters” (so very much) to those who oppose choice… why aren’t we helping the families who aren’t allowed to choose because of some bullshit beliefs/laws that have nothing to do with an observed reality? Hypocrisy all over the damn place.

          It’s a control and power struggle that has been going on for longer than we’ve been alive. We can have rational thought AND compassion at the same time; but many of those who influence our “laws” don’t give a damn about what happens to poeple after their own ends or objectives have been met.

          If we don’t believe teachers are responsible for raising kids, than we better damn-well make sure we are providing our own with the resources they need. Or fuck it, let’s keep passing the blame in order to make ourselves feel righteous and forget about the very complex issues. Complexities are hard anyway, why bother when I’m already comfortable?

          • @z00s
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            11 year ago

            Those are US problems. I don’t live in the US

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              01 year ago

              Those are absolutely not problems specific to the US. But it looks like you’re not trying to understand any viewpoint other than your own. Good day sir

              • @z00s
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                11 year ago

                Lol your world view is so American that you can’t see the forest for the trees. Indeed it seems you’re the one who doesn’t understand any other viewpoint, because you don’t even understand that there are other viewpoints to be had.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      Yeah, it’s not like they are part of an institution designed to ensure a baseline level of education within society. Oh, wait.

      • @z00s
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        01 year ago

        That’s right, to educate you, not to raise you.

        A basic level of education to function at work. That’s literally why modern schooling was created during the industrial revolution.

        What the fuck do you think parents are supposed to do? Just pop you out of a vagina, feed you, and leave everything else to other people?

        I’m sorry your parents were so shit, anon.

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          How to deal with emotions, personal finance, How to deal with police, mindfulness, critical thinking…nothing.

          All of that seems fairly important for continued success at work.

          What the fuck do you think parents are supposed to do? Just pop you out of a vagina, feed you, and leave everything else to other people?

          Unfortunately, much to my dismay, being a parent has no requirements or standards. As such, in order to ensure a baseline, that should be available in school. In addition, how are those parents supposed to learn how to parent… if that isn’t taught in school?

          Fuck orphans?

          • @z00s
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            01 year ago

            Cute, but complete crap.

            • @[email protected]
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              Ah yes, I can’t believe I didn’t look at it that way. What wonderous intelligence you have been blessed with.

              • @z00s
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                01 year ago

                It means that you’re being deliberately obtuse in order to pretend that you don’t understand that you’re wrong. If you don’t understand how to admit that, it’s nobody else’s problem.

    • @MiddleWeigh
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      21 year ago

      Some people don’t have parents. But I generally agree with you.