In short, we aren’t on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn’t mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We’re going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren’t insurmountable and extinction level.

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    Yes but my point is that the world is already burning… People are dying… Homes are sinking into the ocean… Countless species are being lost. Pray tell, when is it bad enough that it is no longer sensationalistic?

    Oh, if only people were as passionate about abortion. I mean, they’re not killing that many babies, right? Why the fuss?

    Edit: also, 1.5 C is catastrophic. Millions will move or die. Refugees will be pouring out of countries in numbers like we’ve never seen. Food production won’t keep up with demands. Entire ecosystems like corals will be decimated and survive in only tiny pockets. Stop me if I’m being too hyperbolic and making anyone feel paralyzed with inaction though. Better we gently sweep it under the rug as we have done since the 1970s, because then it’s not a problem!

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      Millions will move or die

      So not an existential threat to humanity, then.

      This person was picked for the job because their job is to encourage effective means of fighting climate change, and encouraging hopelessness is not effective.

      We are likely to see 1.5C. The world will go on, because it has to. Being prepared to deal with 1.5C means not assuming 1.5C is the end of the world.

      Stop me if I’m being too hyperbolic

      Stop.

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          If that’s what you took away from my post, it’s an even better thing you’re a junior scientist and not running the IPCC.

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            I’m sorry, do many people dying not constitute an existential threat to all of humanity? Like, are you seriously arguing the semantics?

            All I’m saying is that a gentle hand at the wheel hasn’t worked. It isn’t working currently. What we have now is a moderate response to an existential threat. We should have done a lot more a lot sooner. I guess 2 becomes the new 1.5…then 3 becomes the new 2… And if we lose a billion or so peeps, that’s ok. Just the cost of ensuring we’re not all wringing our hands bc the head of the IPC said not to… Whew!

            And thanks for taking a dog at my credentials. I’ll have you know my h index is looking mighty fine 😘

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            If that’s all a Ph. D wielding senior scientist like you has to bring to the table, then it’s a good thing we don’t listen to you ivory tower dorks.

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              You’re either responding to the wrong person, or a complete dipshit, and this applies to both posts you’ve made to my comments.

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        I hate to break it to you, but things don’t just work the way you want them to simply because you need them to. Reality is in no way obligated to meet your needs or conform to your sensibilities

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          their is more than just storm issues in fl that cause issue with finding home insurance. Don’t get me wrong storms are a part of it, but the rampant and ease of ability for contractors to commit insurance fraud and get away with it among several other issues also was heavy aspects in it as well.

          Edit to add: we do need to stop global warming not saying its not something to worry about, it is. Just that the situation in fl is more nuance. As is to an extent can right now.

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            This is true, thanks. Increasingly however, insurers are going to cite storms and sea level rise as justification for not insuring homes. See : the outer banks, NC for a preview

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              PH yeah that is definitely going to happen with global warming.Ieitger everyone’s premiums increase drastically or they need to drop those that are higherrisks.Itss why states like fl and Cali have government backed companies for those that are high risk

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            61,000 people died of heat in Europe this last month. It’s happening now, though 😢

            And yes lots more will change: more frequent storms, rising acidity of the oceans, range shifts and local extinctions. More problems require even more and varied solutions.

            We’ve had technology to relieve dependence on fossil fuels for decades, but the lack of initiative to speak publicly and forcefully about climate change and fear of being seen as biased on behalf of scientists let oil and coal lobbyists drive the narrative and crushed such competition in the 1990s. Per kwh, such forms of energy and now more economically and ecologically viable then ever before. Speak up now!