Apparently it is available on Hulu which I happen to have. I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch it, but it would be extremely convenient now. So I don’t think for one second that Hulu would host anything which is even remotely praising of Stalin, but I’m wondering if it is at least tolerable for a socialist viewer. Is there any historical accuracy at all? Does humor and entertainment outweigh the ideological position of capitalist Hollywood at all? Will I just get mad if I watch it, or can I enjoy it in the sense that no western media will ever do justice to the history of the USSR and its ok to laugh a little?
I agree, but saying you want to kill people who watch a movie is a bit extreme and concerning.
Naturally, i just don’t agree that those kind of movies are stupid, they are propaganda too and an insidious one.
I disagree. That is a problem with attempting to pander to the least common denominator.
A lot of satire goes completely over the heads of many people, but that’s not the fault of the filmmaker or movie a lot of the times.
At some point it’ll just be impossible to try and make it so that reactionaries don’t latch onto everything.
Thank you for proving my point that it is very insdious propaganda.
The very same topic floated some time ago in Deprogram sub and there was a lot of communist defending that piece just because they found it funny too.
Of course nothing wrong with actually finding it fun, but only as far as you recognize it’s propaganda. And overally it will do harm because even among the comrades, many do not.
I was not defending the movie and I have no idea where you got that from. I also never said I found the movie funny.
I was simply stating that there is a event horizon with satire where if the viewer is so in-grained in propaganda that they cannot discern satire from reality, that is not the problem of the film.
Thats the entire point of satire. Its supposed to ironic. If the viewer cannot differentiate that, it does not make it “propaganda” it means the viewer is ignorant and uneducated.
Again, that is not the issue of the filmmaker.
By your logic anything can be propaganda whether it is or isn’t. You’ve created an entirely arbitrary and illogical system.
Are you just trying to suggest that such movies are not made with the explicit intention of being anticommunist propaganda???
I did not say that. Again, I am not even talking about “The Death of Stalin”, I’m talking about satires as a whole.
Saying “it’s a joke bro” don’t make anticommunist propaganda any better.
I agree, again, I think there’s a disconnect towards what were exactly talking about.
I AM NOT DEFENDING ANTI-COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA OR THE DEATH OF STALIN. I am saying that satire can be ironic and has the ability to be misinterpreted. Like the Polish films you mentioned before, they’re satirical but some people believe them as reality. That doesn’t make them propaganda.
Or Warhammer. A satire on fascism, imperialism, and militarism, but many completely miss the entire point of the satire.