I don’t understand what you’re saying, or the point that you’re trying to make… (Not sure if this is a translation issue. I’m not sure what sr means for all the links, and I don’t follow how a CNC is relevant. CNCs are almost never used for itricate plastic models and are totally different from what we were talking about. These kinds of items are always injection molded, or when made at home, traditionally cast from resin in a mold)
And all of those that have a picture of the model actually printed have a pretty crap finish, exactly like what I was talking about
You can do post processing, but it’s not likely to turn out amazing on something that small with fine details and it’d be a fuck-ton of work, and after you buy the resin and paint (unless you already have tbem) you’re liable to have spent more money and a ton more effort to end up with something that looks worse than buying it for like $15
We are seeing photo. We don’t know the finished quality of the actual thing. The idea is to produce something better at the makerspace than give a fascist money.
Huh… I’ve never seen that abbreviated in that way, thank you for explaining.
Sorry, I wrote way too much. TLDR, that’s a really unhelpful solution to someone wanting something like this, and just comes across as condescending and out of touch.
If you want to make something at home as a reasonable quality an FTM printer isn’t a particularly good way of doing that. Resin is much better, but the amount of work involved would be crazy, and either way, A LOT of skill is involved to make something even remotely in the same ballpark quality wise.
Some things genuinely aren’t easily made at home- small detailed injection molded parts for an item that needs to look nice cosmetically (since looking nice is the whole point of a colectable figure to put on your shelfs. Unless it’s for your kid who enjoys action figures.) Is not easy manufacturing to duplicate at home
If someone wants a cool little metroid figure for their shelf they’re not a bad person for buying one. If they can make one that’s great, but as someone who loves making stuff, telling someone to just 3d print one really isn’t a substitute unless you have an massive amount of time on your hands, a lot of skill, and a whole bunch of money (unless you already have access to a printer. But even then it’d probably still cost more in materials than buying), all of which you’d like to dedicate just to making something you could buy for $15 or something, that’s really not a helpful suggestion at all.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism and we all do our best to find small things that are fun to us. It’s unhelpful to rain on people’s parade, but especially when the rain is a wildly unrealistic workaround that most people couldn’t afford in time, or money, nor have anywhere near the skill to pull off.
Frankly you might be able to get a model kit similar to a gunpla model for Samus, potentially from some local model store. Which would still be buying things. Or a figure from somewhere other than Walmart if it’s just the specific retailer that’s the issue, I have a Samus figure made by Figma that I bought from a independent model/hobby store
opinion. But I much enjoyed this detailed one.
I’ve been in makerspaces ever since I learned they existed, and everyone that does additive molding always sands, etches, varnishes, and paints. It’s even necessary in [email protected] collections.
I am not disagreeing purchasing jakks’s toys maybe cheaper, but folks can make it with better materials, and more solid foundations. I just want folks to consider options when they want to memento a series, but not support a fascist corporation. Plus, I have no idea the quality this toy will look like.
I can understand being miffed at that. I really just mean that fdm printers produce parts that, off the printer, aren’t cosmetically nice. If you look at the action figures at your links to the model sites, all of them (where there’s enough resolution to see surface quality) have extremely obvious layer lines that make them look really crummy compared to a proper collectable model
You can absolutely do post processing, but at that point you’re talking about pretty serious modelmaking and painting skill, and if you want a good finish, a lot of money for things like an airbrush setup if you dont have a makerspace or your makerspace doesn’t have a way for you to do a good quality paintjob
All of which is totally valid effort to put into making a thing, but when someone posts a little model available to buy and the reply is just an image of a 3d printer, it feels like a
"oh, instead of just buying the affordable thing you were looking at just:
Find a makerspace, get a membership (or research and then buy a 3d printer, air compressor, hose, and airgun)
buy your sand paper, files, glue, resin for covering over layer lines, paint, solvent for the air gun, respirator
Learn how to 3d model
Learn how to use a slicer
If you bought an affordable 3d printer learn how to get it calibrated and dialed in
Learn how to paint with an air gun
Learn how to clean up layer lines with sanding and resin
Model everything
Print all your parts until they turn out right, problem solving along the way
Assemble
Sand
Resin coat
Sand
Resin coat
Mask and paint
Mask and paint some more
Mask and paint some more, again
Clear coat
Clean up the mess you inevitably made along the way if you’re working at home
And then you’re all done! You know, just do that instead. Super simple. Otherwise you’re someone who supports fascists."
Which, I don’t think you intended it to be flippant in that way. But it does come across that way 😅, I’d imagine especially so for the person who posted (which, people not putting energy into posting on the fediverse is a huge challenge, especially to a super niche comm like this one)
Anyway, I always really enjoy when I get to have conversations where folks disagree online and it doesn’t become combative, thanks for chatting with me ☺️
I don’t understand what you’re saying, or the point that you’re trying to make… (Not sure if this is a translation issue. I’m not sure what sr means for all the links, and I don’t follow how a CNC is relevant. CNCs are almost never used for itricate plastic models and are totally different from what we were talking about. These kinds of items are always injection molded, or when made at home, traditionally cast from resin in a mold)
And all of those that have a picture of the model actually printed have a pretty crap finish, exactly like what I was talking about
You can do post processing, but it’s not likely to turn out amazing on something that small with fine details and it’d be a fuck-ton of work, and after you buy the resin and paint (unless you already have tbem) you’re liable to have spent more money and a ton more effort to end up with something that looks worse than buying it for like $15
șr= shr = Sure.
We are seeing photo. We don’t know the finished quality of the actual thing. The idea is to produce something better at the makerspace than give a fascist money.
Huh… I’ve never seen that abbreviated in that way, thank you for explaining.
Sorry, I wrote way too much. TLDR, that’s a really unhelpful solution to someone wanting something like this, and just comes across as condescending and out of touch.
If you want to make something at home as a reasonable quality an FTM printer isn’t a particularly good way of doing that. Resin is much better, but the amount of work involved would be crazy, and either way, A LOT of skill is involved to make something even remotely in the same ballpark quality wise.
Some things genuinely aren’t easily made at home- small detailed injection molded parts for an item that needs to look nice cosmetically (since looking nice is the whole point of a colectable figure to put on your shelfs. Unless it’s for your kid who enjoys action figures.) Is not easy manufacturing to duplicate at home
If someone wants a cool little metroid figure for their shelf they’re not a bad person for buying one. If they can make one that’s great, but as someone who loves making stuff, telling someone to just 3d print one really isn’t a substitute unless you have an massive amount of time on your hands, a lot of skill, and a whole bunch of money (unless you already have access to a printer. But even then it’d probably still cost more in materials than buying), all of which you’d like to dedicate just to making something you could buy for $15 or something, that’s really not a helpful suggestion at all.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism and we all do our best to find small things that are fun to us. It’s unhelpful to rain on people’s parade, but especially when the rain is a wildly unrealistic workaround that most people couldn’t afford in time, or money, nor have anywhere near the skill to pull off.
Frankly you might be able to get a model kit similar to a gunpla model for Samus, potentially from some local model store. Which would still be buying things. Or a figure from somewhere other than Walmart if it’s just the specific retailer that’s the issue, I have a Samus figure made by Figma that I bought from a independent model/hobby store
I was miffed earlier at the
opinion. But I much enjoyed this detailed one. I’ve been in makerspaces ever since I learned they existed, and everyone that does additive molding always sands, etches, varnishes, and paints. It’s even necessary in [email protected] collections.
I am not disagreeing purchasing jakks’s toys maybe cheaper, but folks can make it with better materials, and more solid foundations. I just want folks to consider options when they want to memento a series, but not support a fascist corporation. Plus, I have no idea the quality this toy will look like.
repro ftw
I can understand being miffed at that. I really just mean that fdm printers produce parts that, off the printer, aren’t cosmetically nice. If you look at the action figures at your links to the model sites, all of them (where there’s enough resolution to see surface quality) have extremely obvious layer lines that make them look really crummy compared to a proper collectable model
You can absolutely do post processing, but at that point you’re talking about pretty serious modelmaking and painting skill, and if you want a good finish, a lot of money for things like an airbrush setup if you dont have a makerspace or your makerspace doesn’t have a way for you to do a good quality paintjob
All of which is totally valid effort to put into making a thing, but when someone posts a little model available to buy and the reply is just an image of a 3d printer, it feels like a
"oh, instead of just buying the affordable thing you were looking at just:
Find a makerspace, get a membership (or research and then buy a 3d printer, air compressor, hose, and airgun)
buy your sand paper, files, glue, resin for covering over layer lines, paint, solvent for the air gun, respirator
Learn how to 3d model
Learn how to use a slicer
If you bought an affordable 3d printer learn how to get it calibrated and dialed in Learn how to paint with an air gun
Learn how to clean up layer lines with sanding and resin Model everything
Print all your parts until they turn out right, problem solving along the way
Assemble
Sand
Resin coat
Sand
Resin coat
Mask and paint
Mask and paint some more
Mask and paint some more, again
Clear coat
Clean up the mess you inevitably made along the way if you’re working at home
And then you’re all done! You know, just do that instead. Super simple. Otherwise you’re someone who supports fascists."
Which, I don’t think you intended it to be flippant in that way. But it does come across that way 😅, I’d imagine especially so for the person who posted (which, people not putting energy into posting on the fediverse is a huge challenge, especially to a super niche comm like this one)
Anyway, I always really enjoy when I get to have conversations where folks disagree online and it doesn’t become combative, thanks for chatting with me ☺️
I hope you have a lovely day or night! ❤️
Same😆🤝