• Magnor
      link
      fedilink
      291 year ago

      Truly ? What aspects of it ?

      I mean they do have universal basic income on earth but apart from that humanity is all kinds of fucked. And it doesn’t exactly get better as the story progresses.

      • AlexisFR
        link
        fedilink
        151 year ago

        The fact that the earth is even united and not completely screwed is already a great start. It was even recovering from climate change before Inaros.

        • Magnor
          link
          fedilink
          181 year ago

          The earthers are not doing that bad in the beginning that is true. But the rest of the system have it rough.

        • teft
          link
          fedilink
          121 year ago

          The earth is united like the United States is united. The tribes just got bigger is all. Instead of NATO vs BRICS, the Expanse universe has Earthers vs Martians vs Belters. And people are suffering hard on earth as evidenced during Bobby’s trip to the ocean.

          • @busteray
            link
            41 year ago

            Bobby’s saw a very different earth in the books tho.

            People living in UBI weren’t really living a paradise but they weren’t homeless hobos like in the show.

            • teft
              link
              fedilink
              61 year ago

              Example B of earth being shittastic is the entirety of The Churn novella

              The story for The Churn is entirely Earth based and provides a description of what the average life in a crowded, metropolitan city is like in the world of the Expanse. The city of Baltimore has given way to a multitude of crime bosses, and organized black markets. There are multiple bosses who each keep a “family” of personal guards that operate the smuggling of goods, illegal memory implants, weapons smuggling, cybernetic implants, and other illegal goods and services. The story takes place over the course of about two days.

        • ThenThreeMore
          link
          fedilink
          English
          81 year ago

          To be fair to Inaros he did end global warming and the overpopulation of earth.

      • @nxfsi
        link
        71 year ago

        Chrissie’s fabulous saris

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        31 year ago

        Isn’t the UBI on earth literally so poor that people on it are stuck in lives of poverty unless they can get into some kind of training scheme?

        • Magnor
          link
          fedilink
          21 year ago

          Mostly they suffer from extreme boredom and mediocre lives. Nothing drastic but soul suckingly unfulfilling.

      • AlexisFR
        link
        fedilink
        41 year ago

        Not at all. It always looked like something in between for me. Humanity is still struggling but moving forward, and most people live under various kind of regimes but no big bad Empire.

        • Magnor
          link
          fedilink
          131 year ago

          Well the belters have it pretty rough and Mars is basically totalitarian. And without spoiling anything I’d suggest you keep reading, it is worth it :).

          • @Krompus
            link
            51 year ago

            I have a question for you, fancy pantsy book reader on their own instance: should I watch the show and then read the books, read the books and then watch the show, or read the books and skip the show?

            • Magnor
              link
              fedilink
              61 year ago

              Well my pants aren’t fancy at all thank you very much :p.

              The show is great, and so are the books. Mostly I would start by watching the show which is, for the first season at least, much more polished imho (the writers of the book were also show runners). After that, the show ends at book 6 (there are 9 total) but several character arcs are tweaked so I would recommend reading at least books 3 to 6 before 7.

              • @Brainded
                link
                11 year ago

                “(the writers of the book were also show runners)”

                This must be why the books read like a TV or movie script to me.

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  31 year ago

                  The books came much earlier than the show. What they meant was that the showrunners involved the writers of the books in the production of the show, which resulted in a much more faithful adaptation than is usual for these things.

                  • Magnor
                    link
                    fedilink
                    11 year ago

                    Yes exactly. Thank you for clarifying my mangled sentence :).

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              61 year ago

              Doesn’t really matter as the show ends three books short. You probably want to read them though rather than try and pick up from book 7 after the show as lots of characters were changed a bit in the show and one is killed due to off screen drama who should survive.

              • SkaveRat
                link
                fedilink
                31 year ago

                That character death was so sad. But the reason behind the scenes was absolutely justified

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              31 year ago

              Watch the show and then read the books. In my opinion the show is fantastic and incredibly enjoyable (except for ending the series in what is obviously the middle of a significant plot thread, which is annoying) but the books are even better and spoiled the show a tinsy bit for me.