Biden promised he would be a one term president. That was a main talking point of his first run.
He promised he would cancel all student loans. Dems had a majority for two years and he couldn’t or didnt want to get it done.
The democrats have long been a party of corporate boot lickers. People were already getting tired of that 12 years ago.
The DNC again didnt really hold any sort of fair primary or give their voters much choice, for the third election in a row. They basically just re-ran the Hillary campaign. 4th or 5th if you want to be more cynical and talk about how they were pretty against Obama until he drummed up the giant swell of support that he did. They also campaigned with people most dems detested and thought were the worst humans on earth until trump 1.0 rolled around. They ignored their entire base and continuously have ignored the rural areas.
GENOCIDE. that was pretty big for most people. It was obvious to anyone paying any attention in the first two weeks of the war what Israel was doing. Biden fully endorsed and funded it. That quite rightly pissed off a lot of people.
If you dont draw the line at genocide, you really cant draw the line at democracy.
Even now dems are barely putting up a fight against Trump. Theyre more interested in shafting the progressive wing of their own party and keeping their positions.
All of that combined led to an increased sense of “what the fuck are we voting for you for if all youre doing is keeping the status quo the same and shafting everyone at a slower pace”
Immediately after Jan 6th they should have locked up every single person involved, and they would have been fully able to do it. They again let them off easy, the same way the north let the south off easy after the Civil War.
I one hundred percent agree with everything you said. Biden is a lying piece of shit, the DNC is awful, Harris completely fucked up, and Israel is engaged in genocide. Draw your line wherever you like, it doesn’t matter if both candidates are on the other side of it.
But my point stands that the time to complain about those things is anytime besides the election day. There wasn’t a viable candidate on the ballot who opposed the genocide in Israel. You had to choose between the lesser of two evils, and one evil was significantly worse than the other.
The thing is that was their entire campaign. They didnt give a fuck about anyone or anything. They just sat there and said “hey im not that guy” with absolutely zero plan on how to be anything other than a milque toast version of that guy.
No one was turned on by that. No one wanted that. They assumed their base would just come out and vote for them no matter what they did. Then they pulled a shocked Pikachu face and started blaming everyone except themselves when it happened, and they still do. It is the party and the politicians job to be on the side of the people and win their votes. If they do such a fucking shit ob at it that a demented shit wearing paedo can win above them, then they need to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror. And through all words they’ve said and all actions they’ve taken since, it seems very very clear that they are not doing it at all
I 100% agree with you, and I fully blame Biden, Harris, and the DNC for enabling Trump. I also blame Clinton for her fuck ups in 2016, and I blame Biden and the congressional democrats for bot doing more when they had the opportunities.
Democrats suck.
Republicans are worse.
This isn’t a thought experiment. People have died because Trump won. People have had their entire lives ruined. People have suffered. People have lost their income sources. People have lost their homes. People have lost their families.
Because Trump won.
Some of that might have happened if Harris had won, but it would not have been as bad as it currently is. Pardons have been issued. SCOTUS precendents have been written. Generations of Americans will be un-fucking our legal, economic, and regulatory systems, if America even survives. Not since the Civil War has America been closer to total collapse.
Choices have consequences. Sometimes the options both suck, and you have to pick which one sucks less. Political progress is the slow boring of hard boards. It requires constant vigilance, diligence, commitment, competence, and care. That’s why, historically and currently, the most successful political movements are led by religious zealots or despotic narcissists. Compromise, nuance, and empathy will slow you down, but that’s not a reason to abandon your principles. Principles guide you in your choices, but election day is the last step in a long process. Your choices are limited hy the trajectory of previous years of hard work.
I agree with what you’ve said too, but again, I think the dems would have done a lot of this either way. Not as callously, not as absurdly, but they had a chance to lock up trump, Pence, McConnell, Paul Ryan, etc., and chose not to do it in order to protect themselves. Biden had more deportations than trump did in his first term. We just didnt hear about it. Are you telling me every single one of those people were guilty of whatever crime? Or that families weren’t torn apart?
I agree that it wouldnt be as bad as it currently is, but they were both trending in that direction. Genocide would have continued at the same pace. People were losing their homes and families while the rich buy up all estates for dimes and dollars under the dems too.
You say “compromise, nuance, and empathy will slow you down, but thats not a reason to abandon your principles”. I would argue that a lot of people were refusing to abandon their principles - namely genocide being bad and promises being broken, and the democratic party showed theirs - namely corporate welfare, money, and lip service to the middle and lower classes. The thing was, those principles were not the same.
The immediate response and the response ever since from Dems has been to blame every sort of minority they could (Arab Americans, black americans, millenials, latinos), while refusing to countenance the fact that those groups still did by and large vote majority for dems. The people who didnt were white men and women. On top of that, they keep talking about how the voters were wrong and cost them, rather than focusing on what they did wrong, which everyone was shouting from the rooftops.
Things were not great before Trump. Thats why he won the first term, in addition to the DNC shooting themselves in the foot and doing all they could to stop Bernie. Biden stabilized some stuff, but didnt do much for anyone, and things got worse from the first trump term. Its not like everything was sunshine and roses while the dems were in charge. And even if they do come back in charge, they fucked themselves by allowing the Republicans to stack every single court in the country. Again, that level of incompetence cannot be real - either they are fully incapable of planning anything, or they were okay with it happening.
GENOCIDE. that was pretty big for most people. It was obvious to anyone paying any attention in the first two weeks of the war what Israel was doing. Biden fully endorsed and funded it. That quite rightly pissed off a lot of people.
Yeah this one really bothers me. It seems like there were a lot of abstainers and protest voters based on this one issue. As if Trump winning was going to make anything better.
Voting in a general election in a first past the post system is always the lesser of two evils. Hold your nose and cast the ballot.
I think the issue here was manifold in a sense
Biden promised he would be a one term president. That was a main talking point of his first run.
He promised he would cancel all student loans. Dems had a majority for two years and he couldn’t or didnt want to get it done.
The democrats have long been a party of corporate boot lickers. People were already getting tired of that 12 years ago.
The DNC again didnt really hold any sort of fair primary or give their voters much choice, for the third election in a row. They basically just re-ran the Hillary campaign. 4th or 5th if you want to be more cynical and talk about how they were pretty against Obama until he drummed up the giant swell of support that he did. They also campaigned with people most dems detested and thought were the worst humans on earth until trump 1.0 rolled around. They ignored their entire base and continuously have ignored the rural areas.
GENOCIDE. that was pretty big for most people. It was obvious to anyone paying any attention in the first two weeks of the war what Israel was doing. Biden fully endorsed and funded it. That quite rightly pissed off a lot of people.
If you dont draw the line at genocide, you really cant draw the line at democracy.
Even now dems are barely putting up a fight against Trump. Theyre more interested in shafting the progressive wing of their own party and keeping their positions.
All of that combined led to an increased sense of “what the fuck are we voting for you for if all youre doing is keeping the status quo the same and shafting everyone at a slower pace”
Immediately after Jan 6th they should have locked up every single person involved, and they would have been fully able to do it. They again let them off easy, the same way the north let the south off easy after the Civil War.
I one hundred percent agree with everything you said. Biden is a lying piece of shit, the DNC is awful, Harris completely fucked up, and Israel is engaged in genocide. Draw your line wherever you like, it doesn’t matter if both candidates are on the other side of it.
But my point stands that the time to complain about those things is anytime besides the election day. There wasn’t a viable candidate on the ballot who opposed the genocide in Israel. You had to choose between the lesser of two evils, and one evil was significantly worse than the other.
The thing is that was their entire campaign. They didnt give a fuck about anyone or anything. They just sat there and said “hey im not that guy” with absolutely zero plan on how to be anything other than a milque toast version of that guy.
No one was turned on by that. No one wanted that. They assumed their base would just come out and vote for them no matter what they did. Then they pulled a shocked Pikachu face and started blaming everyone except themselves when it happened, and they still do. It is the party and the politicians job to be on the side of the people and win their votes. If they do such a fucking shit ob at it that a demented shit wearing paedo can win above them, then they need to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror. And through all words they’ve said and all actions they’ve taken since, it seems very very clear that they are not doing it at all
I 100% agree with you, and I fully blame Biden, Harris, and the DNC for enabling Trump. I also blame Clinton for her fuck ups in 2016, and I blame Biden and the congressional democrats for bot doing more when they had the opportunities.
Democrats suck.
Republicans are worse.
This isn’t a thought experiment. People have died because Trump won. People have had their entire lives ruined. People have suffered. People have lost their income sources. People have lost their homes. People have lost their families.
Because Trump won.
Some of that might have happened if Harris had won, but it would not have been as bad as it currently is. Pardons have been issued. SCOTUS precendents have been written. Generations of Americans will be un-fucking our legal, economic, and regulatory systems, if America even survives. Not since the Civil War has America been closer to total collapse.
Choices have consequences. Sometimes the options both suck, and you have to pick which one sucks less. Political progress is the slow boring of hard boards. It requires constant vigilance, diligence, commitment, competence, and care. That’s why, historically and currently, the most successful political movements are led by religious zealots or despotic narcissists. Compromise, nuance, and empathy will slow you down, but that’s not a reason to abandon your principles. Principles guide you in your choices, but election day is the last step in a long process. Your choices are limited hy the trajectory of previous years of hard work.
I agree with what you’ve said too, but again, I think the dems would have done a lot of this either way. Not as callously, not as absurdly, but they had a chance to lock up trump, Pence, McConnell, Paul Ryan, etc., and chose not to do it in order to protect themselves. Biden had more deportations than trump did in his first term. We just didnt hear about it. Are you telling me every single one of those people were guilty of whatever crime? Or that families weren’t torn apart?
I agree that it wouldnt be as bad as it currently is, but they were both trending in that direction. Genocide would have continued at the same pace. People were losing their homes and families while the rich buy up all estates for dimes and dollars under the dems too.
You say “compromise, nuance, and empathy will slow you down, but thats not a reason to abandon your principles”. I would argue that a lot of people were refusing to abandon their principles - namely genocide being bad and promises being broken, and the democratic party showed theirs - namely corporate welfare, money, and lip service to the middle and lower classes. The thing was, those principles were not the same.
The immediate response and the response ever since from Dems has been to blame every sort of minority they could (Arab Americans, black americans, millenials, latinos), while refusing to countenance the fact that those groups still did by and large vote majority for dems. The people who didnt were white men and women. On top of that, they keep talking about how the voters were wrong and cost them, rather than focusing on what they did wrong, which everyone was shouting from the rooftops.
Things were not great before Trump. Thats why he won the first term, in addition to the DNC shooting themselves in the foot and doing all they could to stop Bernie. Biden stabilized some stuff, but didnt do much for anyone, and things got worse from the first trump term. Its not like everything was sunshine and roses while the dems were in charge. And even if they do come back in charge, they fucked themselves by allowing the Republicans to stack every single court in the country. Again, that level of incompetence cannot be real - either they are fully incapable of planning anything, or they were okay with it happening.
The real truth.
Phew. Good thing they voted to avoid that.
You’re just happy they didn’t have an option to.
Yeah this one really bothers me. It seems like there were a lot of abstainers and protest voters based on this one issue. As if Trump winning was going to make anything better.
Voting in a general election in a first past the post system is always the lesser of two evils. Hold your nose and cast the ballot.