Please stop. I live in Norway. Please stop referring to social democracy as socialist democracy. 😭
Social democracy is a system brought about by socialists in order to implement socialism, this is true! But it’s also just liberal democracy with strong unions and some steps taken to limit the harm that capitalism can do. Better by far than other kinds of capitalism, but still capitalism.
In many ways social democracy is like vanguard states in that it’s supposed to eventually result in socialism, but like vanguard states it fails at actually implementing it.
Jeg kaller sosialdemokratiet vårt hva jeg vil, ok!? 😂 Nah, that was just my brain short circuiting, giving me “socialist” instead of “social”.
You have a more pessimistic view of it than me, it seems. I concur that it has gotten much closer to straight up capitalism the past few decades, with the incessant privatization of the public sector, though. But there are still some pretty robust systems of redistribution in there that we will hopefully keep and strengthen (even if I’m not super optimistic about that myself).
Tenkte du måtte være en yankee fordi det stort sett er dem jeg ser som kaller oss sosialistisk :P
Social democracy is unfortunately decaying worldwide. It has managed very well and has created good working and living conditions in many countries (often by simply exporting hard work to third world countries, so it’s not as good as it seems on the surface) , but now we see a slow and steady increase in wealth inequality. We see more rich people in socially democratic parties and we see them privatize much more as you mention. It’s not just happening here, but everywhere.
I think it ultimately is because the socdem countries must still deal with the rest of the global economy and the influence from foreign companies. The spread of misinformation and propaganda from capitalist hellholes doesn’t help either and undermines peoples faith in public services and unions. Additionally the incentives from a capitalist economy are simply not compatible with democracy in the long run, and so socially democratic parties are doomed to drift right as grifters, rich people, centrists, and others enter the party. Political parties I think will always become worse with time.
There are also other systems to choose from than just full on capitalism and full on communism… (though I guess that’s what you meant)
A socialist democracy with a well-regulated market has worked really well for the Nordic countries, for example!
Please stop. I live in Norway. Please stop referring to social democracy as socialist democracy. 😭
Social democracy is a system brought about by socialists in order to implement socialism, this is true! But it’s also just liberal democracy with strong unions and some steps taken to limit the harm that capitalism can do. Better by far than other kinds of capitalism, but still capitalism.
In many ways social democracy is like vanguard states in that it’s supposed to eventually result in socialism, but like vanguard states it fails at actually implementing it.
Jeg kaller sosialdemokratiet vårt hva jeg vil, ok!? 😂 Nah, that was just my brain short circuiting, giving me “socialist” instead of “social”.
You have a more pessimistic view of it than me, it seems. I concur that it has gotten much closer to straight up capitalism the past few decades, with the incessant privatization of the public sector, though. But there are still some pretty robust systems of redistribution in there that we will hopefully keep and strengthen (even if I’m not super optimistic about that myself).
Tenkte du måtte være en yankee fordi det stort sett er dem jeg ser som kaller oss sosialistisk :P
Social democracy is unfortunately decaying worldwide. It has managed very well and has created good working and living conditions in many countries (often by simply exporting hard work to third world countries, so it’s not as good as it seems on the surface) , but now we see a slow and steady increase in wealth inequality. We see more rich people in socially democratic parties and we see them privatize much more as you mention. It’s not just happening here, but everywhere.
I think it ultimately is because the socdem countries must still deal with the rest of the global economy and the influence from foreign companies. The spread of misinformation and propaganda from capitalist hellholes doesn’t help either and undermines peoples faith in public services and unions. Additionally the incentives from a capitalist economy are simply not compatible with democracy in the long run, and so socially democratic parties are doomed to drift right as grifters, rich people, centrists, and others enter the party. Political parties I think will always become worse with time.