The DeSantis administration’s latest culture war fight over a college-level psychology course is sending Florida schools scrambling to figure out how to handle the confusing standoff, with just days to spare before students return from summer break.

  • @[email protected]
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    “Free” in the sense that the state(s) cannot interfere with what is taught. It’s the same meaning of “free” as in “land of the free”, not as in “free beer”.

    However, all public tuition (primary school, secondary school, and universities) really is free as in “free beer”. Only kindergarten and private schools aren’t.

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      Oh well that just sounds fucking stupid.

      That’s how you get crazy religious schools teaching hate.

      Not to mention, it’s also false as I doubt a school could say teach Nazism in Germany.

      • r_wraith
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        Luckily, article 5, paragraph 3 has two senteces: " The arts, sciences, research and education are free. The freedom of education does not release from the loyalty to the constitution"

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        You got me, I didn’t quote the whole thing because I didn’t think it was relevant.

        Article 5, paragraph 3, sentence 2 states:

        The freedom of education does not relieve [the individual / the teacher] from being loyal to the constitution.

        Nazism isn’t compatible wtih loyality to the constitution. Neither is religious schools teaching hate.

        • Deceptichum
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          See that’s more sensible.

          Still there’s benefits for setting minimums in educational curriculum across a nation.

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            You’ve encouraged me to look into this further. Apparently, I interpreted these freedoms wrong. They seem (in my limited undestanding) to be more about research and university teaching than “regular” schools. That is, researches can look into anything they want, but teachers can’t teach whatever they want.

            There are curriculums, issued by the individual states, that are binding for schools and teachers. This should’ve told me immediately that education can’t be as free as I thought.

            I agree with you that there should be “minimums in educational curriculum”. There’s an ongoing debate that education should be more standardized across the states, but as it is now, even different schools within the same state have different exams that are not all equally difficult to pass.

          • @S_204
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            A minimum education standard would be inclusive not exclusive like what Florida is pushing.

            There’s a clear difference.

            • Deceptichum
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              We’re clearly talking about Germany here.

              No one gives a fuck what the idiots in Florida do.

              • @S_204
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                This whole thread is about Florida. Both places are far too highly concentrated with Nazis, try not to hurt yourself in your confusion.

                • Deceptichum
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                  The original post is about Florida.

                  This comment chain pivoted to Germany.

                  • @S_204
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                    Thank you for acknowledging your mistake.

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              I’m literally an educator, I understand the value in a base nation wide curricula - that doesn’t mean we aren’t given freedom to focus on learners needs.

              And frankly nearly everything America does is fucked up in some way or another, hardly an indictment for or against pursuing something.

              Not to mention the fact that Germany apparently does have some restrictions in place shows that I’m right.