It was the symbol on their flag. More than just me. There are people outside of Lemmy, you know. People relate things when they see them associated over and over their whole lives. But even if only a smaller percentage associate it, I would still prefer a symbol that no one associates with mass murder.
No, its called bad marketing. If as a group socialist and communist would like to promote their ideas then having the symbol they are using be associated with the worst of the worst is not good. That is why I would prefer for something else to be used. You’re welcome to disagree but you don’t need to be rude just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying.
it still sounds like what you associate, not normal people. you’re saying we should all conform with your ignorance? like, you can’t separate the logo of an ideology with states that were related to it? and your tearing the ussr like it was Nazi Germany. are you going to bring the 100 million deaths by communism? because that’s what you’re alluding to. many of those made up 100 million were straight up Nazis, so it’s a good things the Soviets (under the sickle and hammer) got rid of them. making the symbol even better.
get your head out of your ass and stop telling everyone how to organize.
if you want to, no one is stopping you from starting your own communist party with your ass as a flag instead of the hammer and sickle.
Your inability to have a normal conversation is a bit ridiculous. I didn’t tell anyone how to organize, but I am allowed to have ideas. The swastika is still and has been a religious symbol. Stalin was a mass murderer. Hitler was a mass murderer. Doesn’t matter who had rockets. When you look up hammer and sickle on Wikipedia, it says Russia in the first paragraph. Sorry you are sheltered from other humans, I guess? I’m done with you, though, you’re really not worth talking to if you can’t have an actual conversation. Hope you find peace one day.
Because it is not a conversation, I am not invested in changing your mind, all I am doing is calling your petty bullshit.
I am organizing I have a group of over 60 commies who are pushing the local DSA further left, and no one gives a fucking damn about your petty branding grievances. so far, it seems to me all you do is whine about branding. no one has time RN for that. we are at the cusp of a civil war and WW3 and you are bitching about ☭?
what part of my text gave you the sense that I was upset. at worse I’m slightly annoyed and suffer from second hand cringe. get a life you shitlob troll
This association is due to not challenging cold war propaganda over the last century and look where its gotten the American left.
Rejecting the symbol of communism because a project that transformed 250 million illiterate, starving peasants into a space-faring superpower with a quality of life comparable the west used it is the equivalent of prefacing every discussion of Palestine with rejecting Hamas and acknowledging a settler colonial state’s right to exist, every discussion of Venezuela with calling Maduro a dictator who should be sanctioned, every discussion of China with “ccp evil”.
You’ve already lost if you’re gonna go along with whatever horseshit your opposition says about you.
It was the symbol on their flag. More than just me. There are people outside of Lemmy, you know. People relate things when they see them associated over and over their whole lives. But even if only a smaller percentage associate it, I would still prefer a symbol that no one associates with mass murder.
so, everyone must change their sign usage to accommodate you because your ignorance must be protected?
grow up and find some real problems.
No, its called bad marketing. If as a group socialist and communist would like to promote their ideas then having the symbol they are using be associated with the worst of the worst is not good. That is why I would prefer for something else to be used. You’re welcome to disagree but you don’t need to be rude just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying.
it still sounds like what you associate, not normal people. you’re saying we should all conform with your ignorance? like, you can’t separate the logo of an ideology with states that were related to it? and your tearing the ussr like it was Nazi Germany. are you going to bring the 100 million deaths by communism? because that’s what you’re alluding to. many of those made up 100 million were straight up Nazis, so it’s a good things the Soviets (under the sickle and hammer) got rid of them. making the symbol even better.
get your head out of your ass and stop telling everyone how to organize.
if you want to, no one is stopping you from starting your own communist party with your ass as a flag instead of the hammer and sickle.
Your inability to have a normal conversation is a bit ridiculous. I didn’t tell anyone how to organize, but I am allowed to have ideas. The swastika is still and has been a religious symbol. Stalin was a mass murderer. Hitler was a mass murderer. Doesn’t matter who had rockets. When you look up hammer and sickle on Wikipedia, it says Russia in the first paragraph. Sorry you are sheltered from other humans, I guess? I’m done with you, though, you’re really not worth talking to if you can’t have an actual conversation. Hope you find peace one day.
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Because it is not a conversation, I am not invested in changing your mind, all I am doing is calling your petty bullshit.
I am organizing I have a group of over 60 commies who are pushing the local DSA further left, and no one gives a fucking damn about your petty branding grievances. so far, it seems to me all you do is whine about branding. no one has time RN for that. we are at the cusp of a civil war and WW3 and you are bitching about ☭?
And you yet again bring Russia into the mix.
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lol cry more
what part of my text gave you the sense that I was upset. at worse I’m slightly annoyed and suffer from second hand cringe. get a life you shitlob troll
Keep crying
This association is due to not challenging cold war propaganda over the last century and look where its gotten the American left.
Rejecting the symbol of communism because a project that transformed 250 million illiterate, starving peasants into a space-faring superpower with a quality of life comparable the west used it is the equivalent of prefacing every discussion of Palestine with rejecting Hamas and acknowledging a settler colonial state’s right to exist, every discussion of Venezuela with calling Maduro a dictator who should be sanctioned, every discussion of China with “ccp evil”.
You’ve already lost if you’re gonna go along with whatever horseshit your opposition says about you.