• ObjectivityIncarnate
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    17 hours ago

    You don’t want a kid? Man up and get a vasectomy.

    What if you don’t want a kid now, but will want one later?

    Permanent sterilization isn’t always the answer.

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      12 hours ago

      You can have it reversed within ~6 years and regain a high percentage of fertility. You also have the option of storing semen for later in a sperm bank.

      You have options. Sperm quality also degrades over the lifetime of the man, so saving some from your earlier years may have less chance of genetic defects.

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        8 hours ago

        You can have it reversed within ~6 years and regain a high percentage of fertility.

        No responsible doctor will recommend you get a vasectomy under the assumption that you’ll be able to reverse it if you change your mind.

        It is not meant to be reversed. You should only do it with the expectation that it’s permanent; it’s supposed to be permanent.

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          7 hours ago

          I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree here. You obviously have very strong opinions about this.

          Yes, a vasectomy is meant to be permanent, yet you -can- reverse it. I wouldn’t personally consider it a temporary solution, but some people might.

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            5 hours ago

            You obviously have very strong opinions about this.

            It’s not an opinion, that is the only responsible and ethical way to go about it.

            Medical standards, such as those from the American Urological Association (AUA), explicitly state that a vasectomy should be counseled as a permanent procedure. Using its potential reversibility as an incentive to persuade a hesitant patient is generally considered a breach of the standard of care.

            Also something that’s rarely considered: while vasectomies are often covered by insurance, vasectomy reversal very rarely is, and can cost over $10,000 out of pocket, in the US at least.

            ‘I can always reverse it’ should not be influencing one’s decision to get a vasectomy, nor would any ethical doctor say anything along those lines.

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              2 hours ago

              I’m not saying anyone should get a vasectomy assuming it will be reversed, nor that doctors should counsel it that way. It should absolutely be approached as permanent.

              My point was narrow in that for people who are done having kids or strongly don’t want them, vasectomy is a responsible alternative to refusing condoms. There are -also- options like sperm banking or sometimes reversal, if you want to take that gamble. Acknowledging those options isn’t the same as recommending reliance on them.

              We agree on the issue though: it shouldn’t be treated casually or as temporary. Beyond that, I don’t think there’s much left to argue.

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      15 hours ago

      Your balls still produce sperm. Easy extraction if needed.