This is usually the case when someone calls out bad behaviour. People turn and look at the person doing the calling out, and see them as the shit disturber, rather than the toxic or abusive person.
Unfortunately, it’s just part of standing up for something.
I suspect that it’s not quite that simple. AFAIK, Reddit simply isn’t profitable, and they need to make it profitable. Or at least break even. Reverting to mean isn’t the answer, because they’d just keep losing money. But I don’t know what the real solution is. Obviously they advertise, but people using the non-official apps don’t see those, and people that use the old.reddit.com with layered ad blocking scripts also don’t see ads; that means those users are costing them money, and not earning them any money.
I don’t know what the solution is. Pissing off and losing a massive segment of your user base cuts costs, but also cuts your potential ad revenue.
Pissing off and losing a massive segment of your user base cuts costs, but also cuts your potential ad revenue.
They’re gambling on it not hurting their potential ad revenue at all. They’ll try to bolster their ranks with new users who are just looking for content streams and start doing whatever they can to squeeze as much shareholder value out of them as possible.
Agree but they lost good opportunities I think by not properly engaging with people like the Apollo developer. Someone who evidently understood their need to monetize their API etc but instead of thinking what’s reasonable they seemed to have pivoted to crazy.
How else do you apply pressure to the dickhead? a 2 day protest doesn’t do anything impactful. What if the American/French Revolution only lasted 2 days?
I think the 2 day protest was so a lot more subreddits would be willing to participate, and was ultimately used to spread awareness throughout the userbase (and get some traction in the news cycle). I don’t think anyone leading the charge was expecting spez or reddit as a whole to cave and revert everything within those 2 days, but you’d be surprised how easily users can ignore that stuff unless it’s shoved right in their face
Ultimately despite reddit still being a shithole, I think it was pretty effective. Not sure it could be called “rexxit”, but the fediverse is far more populated (and a bit more mainstream) now, as people start realizing there is a way for the community to hold some power and not constantly be at the mercy of bad management or greed
He might also not really have the ability to do that, either. If the board, controlled by VCs and entities that are looking to offload their stake in never-been-profitable Reddit want the company to go public, the company is going public. With or without spez.
And so many assholes blaming mods for the situation, not the dickhead in charge that could easily stop everything by reverting the changes.
This is usually the case when someone calls out bad behaviour. People turn and look at the person doing the calling out, and see them as the shit disturber, rather than the toxic or abusive person.
Unfortunately, it’s just part of standing up for something.
I suspect that it’s not quite that simple. AFAIK, Reddit simply isn’t profitable, and they need to make it profitable. Or at least break even. Reverting to mean isn’t the answer, because they’d just keep losing money. But I don’t know what the real solution is. Obviously they advertise, but people using the non-official apps don’t see those, and people that use the old.reddit.com with layered ad blocking scripts also don’t see ads; that means those users are costing them money, and not earning them any money.
I don’t know what the solution is. Pissing off and losing a massive segment of your user base cuts costs, but also cuts your potential ad revenue.
Reddit should be like Wikipedia. Crowd sourced internet library/forum that begs for server costs a few times a year.
That reminds me - I need to donate to Wikimedia.
They’re gambling on it not hurting their potential ad revenue at all. They’ll try to bolster their ranks with new users who are just looking for content streams and start doing whatever they can to squeeze as much shareholder value out of them as possible.
Agree but they lost good opportunities I think by not properly engaging with people like the Apollo developer. Someone who evidently understood their need to monetize their API etc but instead of thinking what’s reasonable they seemed to have pivoted to crazy.
There was surely a halfway house?
How else do you apply pressure to the dickhead? a 2 day protest doesn’t do anything impactful. What if the American/French Revolution only lasted 2 days?
I think the 2 day protest was so a lot more subreddits would be willing to participate, and was ultimately used to spread awareness throughout the userbase (and get some traction in the news cycle). I don’t think anyone leading the charge was expecting spez or reddit as a whole to cave and revert everything within those 2 days, but you’d be surprised how easily users can ignore that stuff unless it’s shoved right in their face
Ultimately despite reddit still being a shithole, I think it was pretty effective. Not sure it could be called “rexxit”, but the fediverse is far more populated (and a bit more mainstream) now, as people start realizing there is a way for the community to hold some power and not constantly be at the mercy of bad management or greed
to be fair, he probably can’t really do that. If he did I would imagine that shareholders would just replace him.
he could do it at the cost of having the company not go for IPO. but we all know he is after the moolah
He might also not really have the ability to do that, either. If the board, controlled by VCs and entities that are looking to offload their stake in never-been-profitable Reddit want the company to go public, the company is going public. With or without spez.
that mightbe true. I like VCs but their goal at the end of the day is profit.