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Toyota, Progressive Insurance, and a data analytics firm are now being accused of collecting detailed personal driving information without proper consent



I totally get that sentiment, but there have been significant safety improvements in the last 20 years. Your chances of escaping serious injury in an accident are a lot better with a 2025 car than a 2005.
I have a 2024 and I don’t like that it’s probably sharing data, but I specifically didn’t get an older used car because they’re much less safe. I pay $90 for full coverage for two drivers in Denver without the telematics app discount.
Older cars would be perfectly safe if newer cars weren’t gigantic land battleships.
Lol, I’ve seen this stupid take so many times here. You should educate yourself on car safety. There have been a lot of important safety innovations over the past 20 years and cars get safer every year. I’m significantly safer in my newer smaller-than-average car than I would be in the same model from 20 years ago.
Are you threatening higher insurance rates for someone who wants to drive an older car, in the name of safety?
Sounds like insurance companies punish drivers who can’t afford/don’t want new cars with higher rates, while using safety as a scapegoat.
You completely missed the point of my comment.
The person I replied to was worried that data shared by newer cars would be used to raise their insurance rate, so I mentioned insurance to say it didn’t happen to me and my rate is actually pretty low for my area.
Hey, you do you. If you value your privacy over your physical safety then drive an old beater death trap.
Being poor is very expensive.