• cannedtuna
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      Because lemmy is overrun with accounts that do this guerrilla posting shit. Create account, post, delete. Content stays up, and nothing is done about it.

      Edit: For anyone that doubts this, if your on Voyager, you can go to General > turn on New Account Highlightenator, and Appearance > turn on Always Show Post Author and you’ll pretty quickly see how many new accounts pop into existence, spam posts, then self delete. Seems to happen a lot in the news related, and for some reason comic, communities.

      Seems like a good way to hide propaganda and astroturfing posts.

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        I was so confused my why went both ways. This answered one of the ways, however, I don’t get why you need to remove your account after posting. What’s the point?

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            Wow, your comment has a bad up/down vote ratio, must be bad information.

            looks up vote record

            Huh, all of the downvotes on your comment come from deleted accounts.

            looks up their record

            Huh, all of their votes are upping the hit and run content and downvoting posts calling out the behavior.

            Sounds legit. No reason to be concerned about this behavior at all.

            /s for the folks that need it

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              Lmao the same 4 accounts went through all my recent comments and downvoted everything and of course they don’t exist anymore.

              Lemmy’s got a serious bot problem and the bots don’t like it when you call them out

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              You know I was wondering who’d downvote that, but yeah that makes sense. Someone’s, or some group, is trying to manipulate information on Lemmy to some end.

              Even if they were to put a x day old accounts can post rule people would just sit on accounts and then do the same.

              I really think that if a user deletes their account, or is banned, all content they uploaded should come down as well. That’s the only solution I can think of. But I’m sure there are reasons that wouldn’t work.

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            Would it help if removing an account removed all its up/down votes? Is that even technically feasible?

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              Really I wish they’d remove posts, comments, upvotes/downvotes, etc if you delete you an account. All trace gone.

              I mean plus if you deleted your account wouldn’t you want it to be easy to remove all trace of your activity? Like with the whole Reddit exodus people had to use bots to write over their comments and posts. But I don’t think this is possible with Lemmy since the content is copied to other instances and isn’t in one place.

              For example my comments have been vote brigaded by 5 accounts that no longer exist. In fact this person even made an account that mimicked my name to reply to me because I guess I triggered them by calling out this temporary account shit.

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                I’ve seen complaints about useful discussions disappearing when OP deletes their post.
                There certainly are no easy answers. At least here it looks like people are trying.

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                  I wonder if the answer is to either:

                  • delete all posts and votes for accounts that are deleted when they are less than a day old (or whatever age works)
                  • or delete all posts and votes made within a day of the account being deleted

                  That second one protects against hacked accounts posting shit and then being deleted but I’m not sure if that’s a problem.

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            I’m not sure if it’s me not getting the point, but… If they are going to abandon that account anyway, what does it matter if that accounts gets banned from whatever?

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              Technically you can’t be on a ban list for ban evading if you didn’t let yourself be banned, and it obscures further a consistent record of astroturfing or rule-breaking, are my guesses.

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                Until a recent version, you couldn’t remove all content for a user if they deleted their account. So the normal ban and remove all content action was not available. This was changed in a recent version (that not all instances will be updated to).

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          so people can’t block them, presumably?

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            I mean, yeah… But if you do that, and next time you spam with a different account anyway, then why would you add an extra step of deleting a 30min old account anyway?

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              why would you add an extra step of deleting a 30min old account anyway?

              Because the “you” in this scenario is probably an automated bot farm in some eastern European country. It isn’t a person doing this, it’s a program.

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                Well, either case… I still don’t see why it’s necessary to delete the account by anyone/anything, regardless.

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                  Until this became a problem recently, an admin could only delete all content for an account that existed. So deleting the account made it very difficult to track down and delete what they had posted.

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              it’s probably all automated anyway, in either case…mental illness.