• ampersandrew
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    5 hours ago

    Would you have taken a moral stance against automated telephone switchboards or online shopping?

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      5 hours ago

      Yeah if their impact was as negative.

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        Both of those things put a lot of people out of work, but our economy adapted, and there was nothing to be gained by shaming the people embracing the technology that was clearly going to take over. I’m not convinced AI tools are that, but if they are, then nothing can stop it, and you’re shaming a bunch of people who have literally no choice.

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          Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

          But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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            You’re talking about the worst of AI, which I agree should be dismantled. There are many smaller projects that do not do the things you mentioned, and it’s possible to support those while shunning corporate AI.

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            It is the role of government to regulate those problems, but you can’t uninvent a technology. As for me in my work, the most I can say is that I almost used AI once; a coworker did it for me before I could get to our company approved AI page. That, plus other companies mandating its usage (if it was really so great, it wouldn’t be difficult to convince anyone to use it) is why I’m not confident that it is one of those inevitable technologies. But if it is, being a dick to people about it is stupid.

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          5 hours ago

          Why are you defending it? You aren’t GOG and I’m some random person expressing an opinion that you chose to interact with.

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            4 hours ago

            I used an example of two technologies that were destructive and inevitable, now both definitely parts of your daily life, to show how silly it is take a stance against a technology like that. I don’t need to work at GOG for that to be the case. And to reiterate, AI might not be inevitable. If it’s not, this problem takes care of itself economically, and you don’t need to shame anyone.

            • the_q@lemmy.zipBanned from community
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              4 hours ago

              That’s not an answer to my question.

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                4 hours ago

                I believe I did answer your question, though I’d disagree with the idea that I’m “defending” anything. There exists nuance between “pro AI” and “anti AI”.