• Bytemeister
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    3 days ago

    If you see 6 people eating lunch with a nazi… You’re actually looking at 7 nazis.

    Frankly. If I were marching for a cause, and saw a bunch of white hoods or nazi flags going with me, you bet your ass I’d stop what I was doing and think real hard about being in that movement. The fact that republicans don’t kick them out is very telling.

    If I had a business, I sure as fuck wouldn’t serve ICE, DHS, DOGE, nazis, klansmen, and republican politicians.

    • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
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      If you see 6 people eating lunch with a nazi… You’re actually looking at 7 nazis.

      What does that got to do with serving or waiting on them? You’re arguing an entirely different thing here, and that’s the point that’s trying to be made. Way to fuck that up.

      That’s an entirely different scenario, and I wholly agree with that one.

      Life has nuance, don’t be a terrible person yourself by missing it.

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        The nuance is if you don’t know they are nazis. Once you know that they are nazis, and that they aggressively advocate for the extermination of other humans based on core immutable characteristics of those persons, then they have forfeited any expectation of being treated decently in any establishment.

        You want nuance? Then show me a good nazi. Show me a Nazi that advocated for emptying the concentration camps and giving the prisoners back their homes, property, and restitution for their murdered family.

        Fuck all nazis. Fuck all klansmen. Fuck all republicans who are still defending this fascist, racist, pedophile-ridden administration. Fucking MTG bowed out, the Jewish Space Lasers lady was finally like “woah, you guys have gone too far.” Anyone who isn’t actively shunning them at this point is tacitly supporting them.

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          You want nuance? Then show me a good nazi.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Plagge

          Through these efforts he was able to protect over 1250 Jews from the genocide occurring in Vilna until the final days of the German occupation. Although unable to stop the SS from liquidating the remaining prisoners in July 1944, Plagge managed to warn the prisoners of the imminent arrival of SS killing squads, allowing about 200 to successfully hide from the SS and survive until the Red Army’s capture of Vilnius. Of 100,000 pre-war Jews in Vilnius, only 2,000 survived, of which the largest single group were saved by Plagge.

          I don’t know how much of that dude I agree with, but life does have nuance. Your last paragraph is spot on though.

          There’s no room for knowingly serving Nazis.

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            After being dismissed from the position of lecturer for being unwilling to teach racism and his opposition to Nazi racial policies, he stopped participating in party activities in 1935 and left the party when the war broke out.

            He quit being a nazi almost 10 years before he started issuing falsified work permits and saving people from the Holocaust.

            I’ll concede that you technically found a nazi that was arguably a good person, but he also quickly stopped being a nazi when it became clear what the nazi party was planning to do. Plus, being a nazi, or klansmen, or a Republican is a choice, you can literally stop doing that shit at anytime.

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              You can definetly stop being a Nazi which this guy did. I’ll never turn away someone that reflects on their positions and decides to be better. This also doesn’t absolve actions. If you found me a Nazi that was rounding people up early war that then had a change of heart and helped people they still need punishment. Maybe lesser than those who continued with the atrocities.

              But no changing your mind after you’re in trouble for your actions.