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    What. The. Hell. That’s actually crazy. I wonder what country that is…

    In my highschool we actually had to study him. And it was far from a communist country.

    Edit: lmao why the hell do I have a shortcut to automatically replace communist with ☭

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      I was born and raised in the United States and my school’s history books mentioned his name alongside Hitler, but didn’t say why so I asked.

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        Excuse me? Alongside Hitler?? Im so sorry, the United State’s education system is fucked up. Well I guess it isn’t that surprising. You were also taught that WWII was won by the great and powerful USA.

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          yes i was and that’s the context of why i asked my teacher about marx; it don’t remember exact wording, but it was to the effect that evil people like hitler and marx had fooled europeans in the past into committing many atrocities so the united states created the un so that the united states wouldn’t have to keep protecting the world by itself.

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            I had never realized how much propaganda they feed the children in the US…

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      To be fair, if you weren’t raised in a socialist country, it’s almost certain that you were taught a caricature of Marx and Marxist thought.

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        He was treated as an important philosopher and was a recurrent author used to criticize the current system. and we used a lot of excerpts from his manifesto, das Kapital…

        But he wasn’t seen as you’d depict him in communist countries. We confronted his ideas with Arendt’s for example…

        Ultimately, we weren’t taught that he was bad or good, we were just taught his thoughts among other philosophers’ and we used them to write our own essays, form our own opinions.

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          Without knowing how that was done, it sounds like it just as easily could have been done deliberately to demonize him, by comparing him to Arendt’s theories.

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            I translated an online course with deepL, that sums up what we’ve seen on him (allegedly, I don’t remember exactly as it was back in high school!):

            https://hastebin.ianhon.com/a13c

            Sorry, didn’t find any other way to paste this long ass text without polluting the comments so I used this.