Worse criminals in human history and they only face social consequences, no police after them, no jail. Anarchism for the very rich,. rugged police state for the poor.
anarchism is when there is no state to use violence to imprison undesirables. punishments are social consequences and at most exhile. although I’m sure that in this case, every anarchist state that has existed would be OK with a lynching.
rich people live like that, no consequences for being among the worst human beings in history.
Anarchism’s last goal, ideally, is having no state. But that is a very reductionist way of seeing anarchism. I really think that you should read more about it and that the police as an organization is not the only solution to people that “break the rules”.
listen, I’d love to talk theory. but I need you to realize, my original coment is a massive oversimplification. parallel to “socialism for the rich, rugged capitalism for the poor”. which is more of a slogan than theory. Please don’t judge me for making an oversimplified slogan, rather than a 3 page essay.
yhea, there are ways to punish “transgressions” in anarchist states. Chiapas had its own system, Rojava had another. mostly based on mediation, but the worse punishment is being ostracized, which isn’t really a punishment and more of the society not consenting to deal with a person who has proven himself dangerous to people. no jails, no incarceration.
Okay, I understand and sorry because I now think that my last comment is quite paternalistic. I thnk that I still have the reddit dynamics of arguing. I just thought that it was important to write because many times anarchism is misunderstood. Have a nice day!
Worst criminals in the modern era, so far. These conspirators, blackmailed by Israel and whomever else is holding these files now as well, hire influence agencies to come online and tell us we can’t presume guilt just because they are in the files, that they should be innocent until guilty even as we are irreperably harmed just in accusations. They support a merciless police state for us, while playing us to afford them the benefit of the doubt.
We all know they are guilty though, the administration released half of the pages with half of those redacted, redacting seemingly ALL of the information about the actual crimes, leaving only the names of people associating themselves with epstein that they decided not to shield.
Congress needs to pass a new bill, for the unredacted files, the files before the FBI handed them to the Justice Department already redacted in direct definace of the law congress passed, that had since inaugeration if not before had 1k agents redacting the president’s name and whomever else.
A new bill giving the unredacted files, pre fbi redactions, to an independant monitor, overseen by someone respectable, to appoint a group to redact the files to protect victims, victims of sexual abuse by epstein, not of blackmail as they are doing. No need to protect investigations, the only investigations they are doing are in service of protecting the conspirators.
Have the appointed redactors names kept anonymous overseen by an independent monitor and judge or something like that, so the rich that will stop at nothing to prevent this information from getting out won’t be able to threaten them or their families. Because with this case, it seems it really is like that. This is the one issue that could destroy and upend the ruling class, an outcome we’ve never needed more than now.
Barring that, a leak to multiple news organizations would do it, and they could redact for victims. Just names and faces and identifying information. But one wonders if the originals are even not destroyed, they definitely are hidden. I suspect they hid the files under the wrong file names, an old trick to prevent courts or prying eyes from sniffing their bullshit.
All that makes sense, the problem is that its the criminals who control the system.
and even if all the documents leak, even if we have video footage of trump raping and murdering babies. he can literally pardon himself, and the establishment will carry on.
they’ll just be like “who hasn’t dreamed of rapids children and throwing babies into the Michigan lake? you are just jealous they he got to do it”. the real criminals is the Democrats who let him do that.
This is the scandal that can, but won’t necessarily, take them all down. The real “deep state,” in the cia that decided to partner with mossad to compromise our own lawmakers and citizens, an executable offense. The cia needs to be purged as much as any, and especially after this administration. But all of our business leaders, all of our politicians, that are on the list, or covered for them.
We just need popular aggressive opposition to them that knows how to build and run a political machine, which is and has been our only chance to get out from these clowns getting absolute power. People do care, they just don’t all know it yet. Trust me, just help get new leadership, that can win.
there isn’t popular aggressive opposition. dems are just enjoying the ride, and will do what they can’t to not have any progressives in the campaigns.
and MAGA will quickly pivot to defend trump. even if there’s video evidence of him raping kids and murdering babies. even if he does that live on stages in a MAGA event.
Worse criminals in human history and they only face social consequences, no police after them, no jail. Anarchism for the very rich,. rugged police state for the poor.
Anarchism is not when you allow people to rape kids.
anarchism is when there is no state to use violence to imprison undesirables. punishments are social consequences and at most exhile. although I’m sure that in this case, every anarchist state that has existed would be OK with a lynching.
rich people live like that, no consequences for being among the worst human beings in history.
Anarchism’s last goal, ideally, is having no state. But that is a very reductionist way of seeing anarchism. I really think that you should read more about it and that the police as an organization is not the only solution to people that “break the rules”.
listen, I’d love to talk theory. but I need you to realize, my original coment is a massive oversimplification. parallel to “socialism for the rich, rugged capitalism for the poor”. which is more of a slogan than theory. Please don’t judge me for making an oversimplified slogan, rather than a 3 page essay.
yhea, there are ways to punish “transgressions” in anarchist states. Chiapas had its own system, Rojava had another. mostly based on mediation, but the worse punishment is being ostracized, which isn’t really a punishment and more of the society not consenting to deal with a person who has proven himself dangerous to people. no jails, no incarceration.
Okay, I understand and sorry because I now think that my last comment is quite paternalistic. I thnk that I still have the reddit dynamics of arguing. I just thought that it was important to write because many times anarchism is misunderstood. Have a nice day!
yhea, we can chill here.
let’s enjoy it before Reddit crumbles and their migration turns this place into another reddit. (Hopefully won’t happen because how federation works)
Worst criminals in the modern era, so far. These conspirators, blackmailed by Israel and whomever else is holding these files now as well, hire influence agencies to come online and tell us we can’t presume guilt just because they are in the files, that they should be innocent until guilty even as we are irreperably harmed just in accusations. They support a merciless police state for us, while playing us to afford them the benefit of the doubt.
We all know they are guilty though, the administration released half of the pages with half of those redacted, redacting seemingly ALL of the information about the actual crimes, leaving only the names of people associating themselves with epstein that they decided not to shield.
Congress needs to pass a new bill, for the unredacted files, the files before the FBI handed them to the Justice Department already redacted in direct definace of the law congress passed, that had since inaugeration if not before had 1k agents redacting the president’s name and whomever else.
A new bill giving the unredacted files, pre fbi redactions, to an independant monitor, overseen by someone respectable, to appoint a group to redact the files to protect victims, victims of sexual abuse by epstein, not of blackmail as they are doing. No need to protect investigations, the only investigations they are doing are in service of protecting the conspirators.
Have the appointed redactors names kept anonymous overseen by an independent monitor and judge or something like that, so the rich that will stop at nothing to prevent this information from getting out won’t be able to threaten them or their families. Because with this case, it seems it really is like that. This is the one issue that could destroy and upend the ruling class, an outcome we’ve never needed more than now.
Barring that, a leak to multiple news organizations would do it, and they could redact for victims. Just names and faces and identifying information. But one wonders if the originals are even not destroyed, they definitely are hidden. I suspect they hid the files under the wrong file names, an old trick to prevent courts or prying eyes from sniffing their bullshit.
All that makes sense, the problem is that its the criminals who control the system.
and even if all the documents leak, even if we have video footage of trump raping and murdering babies. he can literally pardon himself, and the establishment will carry on.
they’ll just be like “who hasn’t dreamed of rapids children and throwing babies into the Michigan lake? you are just jealous they he got to do it”. the real criminals is the Democrats who let him do that.
This is the scandal that can, but won’t necessarily, take them all down. The real “deep state,” in the cia that decided to partner with mossad to compromise our own lawmakers and citizens, an executable offense. The cia needs to be purged as much as any, and especially after this administration. But all of our business leaders, all of our politicians, that are on the list, or covered for them.
We just need popular aggressive opposition to them that knows how to build and run a political machine, which is and has been our only chance to get out from these clowns getting absolute power. People do care, they just don’t all know it yet. Trust me, just help get new leadership, that can win.
there isn’t popular aggressive opposition. dems are just enjoying the ride, and will do what they can’t to not have any progressives in the campaigns.
and MAGA will quickly pivot to defend trump. even if there’s video evidence of him raping kids and murdering babies. even if he does that live on stages in a MAGA event.