Stop with the whattaboutism. First of all, it’s literally an interview with the actor about their character.
Secondly, declaring that articles about queer characters can only be allowed to exist if they include some unrelated “both sides” criteria is a clear attempt to silence queer voices.
Alright well thank you for the quick and harsh reply. I maintain that it seems a bit disingenuous and somewhat poor journalism to interview someone about a very specific aspect of a character, like first in history, and completely fail to mention that someone from the exact same species has the exact same character aspect in the exact same show
If by saying they should SAY MORE you think I’m making an attempt to silence, then Kirk I have no fuckin clue what you think attempting to amplify looks like.
Problem is the current writers and showrunners declaring “firsts” and patting themselves on the back for things that have already existed in Star Trek.
You’re the one who’s missing the point, in a way that betrays your ignorance about the subject. There were no outwardly gay Klingons who preceded Jay-Den. Calling him the first is only imprecise because he’s tied for that title with another character introduced in the same episode.
At that point you’re splitting hairs. Like the big poster headline that said Michael Burnham was “the first ever black woman as the lead character”, witch both shits all over Nichelle Nichole’s contribution and is also true in the idea that Star Trek never had “THE main character”, as in singular.
Your opinion on that could only hold any weight if you’d been watching it, which you obviously haven’t, since you just tried to argue that the creators of Jay-Den tried to steal clout from the creators of Lura Thok.
man it’s just crazy all the boxes that have to be checked in order to celebrate lgbt representation! its like the bar is set impossibly high! ugh! so crazy.
Obviously you are not a bigot and think representation is a good thing too! thats why it sucks that everything has to be just so perfectly aligned in order to celebrate it! ugh!
Hmm, funny how the first gay male Klingon merits a whole article, but Reno and #1 being happily in love in the same show raises no eyebrows
Stop with the whattaboutism. First of all, it’s literally an interview with the actor about their character.
Secondly, declaring that articles about queer characters can only be allowed to exist if they include some unrelated “both sides” criteria is a clear attempt to silence queer voices.
Alright well thank you for the quick and harsh reply. I maintain that it seems a bit disingenuous and somewhat poor journalism to interview someone about a very specific aspect of a character, like first in history, and completely fail to mention that someone from the exact same species has the exact same character aspect in the exact same show
If by saying they should SAY MORE you think I’m making an attempt to silence, then Kirk I have no fuckin clue what you think attempting to amplify looks like.
Missing the issue entirely.
Problem is the current writers and showrunners declaring “firsts” and patting themselves on the back for things that have already existed in Star Trek.
You’re the one who’s missing the point, in a way that betrays your ignorance about the subject. There were no outwardly gay Klingons who preceded Jay-Den. Calling him the first is only imprecise because he’s tied for that title with another character introduced in the same episode.
@usernamefactory This is a weirdly homophobic hill to try to die on.
@Tattorack
At that point you’re splitting hairs. Like the big poster headline that said Michael Burnham was “the first ever black woman as the lead character”, witch both shits all over Nichelle Nichole’s contribution and is also true in the idea that Star Trek never had “THE main character”, as in singular.
NuTrek is wholly irredeemable.
Your opinion on that could only hold any weight if you’d been watching it, which you obviously haven’t, since you just tried to argue that the creators of Jay-Den tried to steal clout from the creators of Lura Thok.
man it’s just crazy all the boxes that have to be checked in order to celebrate lgbt representation! its like the bar is set impossibly high! ugh! so crazy.
Obviously you are not a bigot and think representation is a good thing too! thats why it sucks that everything has to be just so perfectly aligned in order to celebrate it! ugh!
You genuinely think NuTrek is celebrating LGBTQ+ representation? XD
You poor innocent soul. You must think the rainbow logos from major corporations in June are sincere too!
NuTrek is nothing more than low effort slop that’s using the queerness as a shield from criticism. You’re defending shallow tokenism as “high bar”.
weird how many hoops you are willing to jump through to discourage anyone talking about the gays in a positive way 🤔
protip next time you want to LARP as a non bigot, don’t call it “nutrek” that’s a dead giveaway
It only deserves to be called “NuTrek”. It’s a shame you lack the awareness or the standards to see that.