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    17 小时前

    It’s easy to argue with it – “an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind,” and all that – but it’s hard not to sympathize with it.

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        5 小时前

        You don’t have to celebrate his actions, but you can understand them.

        If someone wantonly murdered your entire family, chances are the next actions you would take would not be rational.

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          To me, that feel extremely rational.

          I want them dead. I kill them. Now they’re dead.

          Simple logic.

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      16 小时前

      The new guy who just took over as Iran’s Supreme Leader, got the job because his father was killed in the first rocket strikes. How do you think he’s going to feel about having any kind of good faith negotiations with IsrAmerica?

      Now consider that he also lost his mother, his wife, and his daughter. His entire family. And he’s not alone. He knows LOTS of people in his close personal, business, and political life who suffered similar losses - those that lived through it, that is.

      Trump got rid of the last guy, and got THIS guy instead, and made America his sworn enemy. And he’s only 56 years old, with lots of life ahead of him. Who can possibly blame him if he dedicates the rest of his life to getting revenge on his, his friends,’ and his nation’s behalf?

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        16 小时前

        I’m not sure my point got across. I wasn’t trying to blame anybody; I was just trying to make a distinction between a logical argument and an emotional one.

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          16 小时前

          No, I get it, and I appreciate you making the distinction. I was just expanding on the point that this guy has plenty of reason to strike back, and is almost certainly going to.

          And when it happens, there will be a huge cry to demonize those who struck us, when we know damn well we deserve every bit of it.

          Because ultimately, the overriding concept is that they aren’t really human like us, so it doesn’t matter if we blow up their innocent children and families over…who knows, The Rapture? OTOH, the entire world should be worshipping America, by bowing to our Supreme Leader, no matter how much he beats you and kills your families, and they have no right to be angry in return at our AMERICAN MIGHT.

          Oh, yeah, and they have oil we can steal. And The Rapture.

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            16 小时前

            I was just expanding on the point that this guy has plenty of reason to strike back, and is almost certainly going to.

            Sure, there’s every reason for him to want to strike back.

            However, I disagree that that means he’s likely to do it. It’s kinda like Zelensky: he’d be entirely justified in telling both Putin and Trump to go fuck themselves, but he won’t do the latter because the US’ half-assed support is still better than Trump fully switching sides.

            I expect Iran’s leader to suck it up and do what’s best for Iran in a realpolitik sense, not engage in suicidal total war just because Trump’s America deserves it.