I get some of the surface level reasons, and those annoy me too. Cramming AI into everything is dumb and unnecessary.

However, I do feel that at a deeper level, it has a lot of useful applications that will absolutely change society and improve the efficiency and skills of those who use it. For example, if someone wants to learn to code, they could take a few different paths. There are the traditional paths, just read or go to school and learn to code that way. Or you could pay for a bootcamp or an online coding education platform. Or, you could just tell an AI chatbot you want to learn to code, and have them become your teacher, and correct any errors you make in real time. Another application is in generating ideas or quick mock ups. Say I’m playing a game of d&d with friends. I need a character avatar so I just provide a description to the AI and it makes it up quick. It might take a few prompts, but it usually does a pretty good job. Or if I have a scenario I need to make a few enemies for, I could just provide the description of those enemies and have a quick stat block made up for them.

I realize that there are underlying issues with regard to training the AI on others work, but as someone who is a musician myself, and a supporter of open source as often as possible, I feel that it’s a bit hypocritical for people to get upset about AI “stealing” work with regard to code or other stuff that people willingly put out there for free for others to consume. Any artist or coder could “steal” the work of others for inspiration for their work, the same as an AI does, an AI is just much more efficient about it. I do think that most of the corporations that are pushing some new AI feature or promising the world or end of the labor force is full of shit, and that we are definitely in some sort of an AI bubble, but the technology itself is definitely useful in a lot of ways, and if it can be developed on a more localized and decentralized scale (community owned AI hubs anyone?), it could actually be a really powerful and beneficial technology for organizations and individuals looking to do more with less.

  • maniclucky
    3·
    7 hours ago

    You’re being disingenuous because that’s the only thing you’re doing. You show no signs of actually ingesting or contemplating other points of view, opinions, etc.

    • rabiezaater@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      11·
      4 hours ago

      What signs would you need to see to believe I am ingesting or contemplating other points of view? I have asked questions, tried to discuss the points that were raised, and even told those I disagree that I appreciate their opinion. For those who have been extra pedantic and focused more on the semantics of the arguments (i.e, you), I have had less patience and curiosity, because those arguments are not really relevant to the actual topic, and more of an ad hominem against me as a person. Overall though, I have not called anyone derogatory names (unlike others in this thread), I have not dismissed someone’s ideas out of hand without providing sources or examples, and I feel I have engaged in a respectful and calm manner. I’m not here to troll anyone, I just would like to discuss the topic I have laid out above. Sorry if my approach has not been what you would have preferred, but to be honest, given that you have not actually contributed to the discussion meaningfully, I frankly don’t give a shit. So I’m done debating my debate style, and if you choose to continue focusing on it, as opposed to the debate topic itself, then I will be removing you from my interactions permanently.

      • maniclucky
        1·
        2 hours ago

        For those who have been extra pedantic and focused more on the semantics of the arguments (i.e, you)

        I’ve had 2 comments not including this one, neither of which discussed semantics. You never responded to my other comment.

        Overall though, I have not called anyone derogatory names (unlike others in this thread)

        While yes, that would indicate bad faith, never said you did that. Can’t speak to others, who shouldn’t do that.

        I have not dismissed someone’s ideas out of hand without providing sources or examples, and I feel I have engaged in a respectful and calm manner.

        It’s less that you are dismissing things or being disrespectful. It’s that your engagement has a pattern where you aren’t engaging at all with certain points that is very obvious. Your positive bias toward LLMs shows. Whether it is due to legitimate bias or stark contrast within the thread due to a very polarizing topic is tricky to parse but definitely comes off that you are invested in LLMs and are unwilling to acknowledge the downsides in a meaningful way. E.g. your outright dismissal of the lack of ethics because it doesn’t offend you personally and find those that complain to be hypocrites.

        Sorry if my approach has not been what you would have preferred, but to be honest, given that you have not actually contributed to the discussion meaningfully, I frankly don’t give a shit.

        Again, do you think you’re responding to someone else? I rattled off a pile of common complaints to which you never responded. At no point did I accuse you of anything or even remark upon your character directly other than observing the stated pattern of avoidance and deeming it disingenuous. One inference could possibly be made with my rebuttal of your ethics argument, but it’s kind of a stretch.