• HasturInYellow
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    2 天前

    If you can look around at the results of allowing religions to dominate society for thousands of years and tell me that you think it’s going well, or even that we have a good chance of surviving the century as a species, then I don’t think you are a fully functioning human being.

    I don’t know what the objective truth of the world is. But what I do know, is that that truth has never been ordained to earthly man by a burning fucking bush or whatever the fuck your particular religion dictates.

    Arguing over interpretations of the hallucinations had by uneducated people thousands of years ago is not just pointless, it promotes a level of ignorance worship that is highly corrosive to a functioning society.

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      2 天前

      All forms of centralized hierarchical power are bad: capitalism, nation-state, and organized religion. Nothing wrong with decentralized, liberating spiritual beliefs.

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        But those do not include organized religions that have holy books written about ancient hallucinations.

        Spiritualism is fine (generally) but it can still lead to delusional thinking. As in, verifiably false conclusions.

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          1 天前

          It’s possible to believe in monotheist religion and scripture without supporting the centralized oppressive organization that exploits them.

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              10 小时前

              Have fun with the close minded elementary understanding

              A Sufi Hymn to Awareness

              Neither subject nor object, neither seer nor seen Awareness is a flame which glows into itself

              For those who have the eyes, for those who wish to see It opens its heart and shows into itself

              Neither here nor there, its home is nowhere Like a wind it blows and blows into itself

              Beginning with a drop in each moment of Creation It soon becomes a river that flows into itself

              From where does it come and to where does it go? Like a breath it comes and goes into itself

              To nothing does it submit, 'cause nothing’s other than it To itself it bows, as it bows to itself

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                How is you choosing to be selective and handpicking what you want to believe out of the vast and contradictory texts any different than those you criticize for doing the same with the materials for other reasons?

                You’re maintaining the same core as those who use religion as an excuse for violence. You can’t be a part of it without being a part of it. Your imaginary friend is the exact same one as theirs.

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              10 小时前

              Sorry forgot you are the ultimate arbiter of truth and that I don’t exist.

              A Sufi Hymn to Awareness

              Neither subject nor object, neither seer nor seen Awareness is a flame which glows into itself

              For those who have the eyes, for those who wish to see It opens its heart and shows into itself

              Neither here nor there, its home is nowhere Like a wind it blows and blows into itself

              Beginning with a drop in each moment of Creation It soon becomes a river that flows into itself

              From where does it come and to where does it go? Like a breath it comes and goes into itself

              To nothing does it submit, 'cause nothing’s other than it To itself it bows, as it bows to itself

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                10 小时前

                Your belief in the organization legitimizes dangerous and corrosive beliefs. It legitimizes the power structure that oppresses. It legitimizes the act of turning off your brain. Your adherence to its rules legitimizes even it’s more rabid and extreme flanks.

                You cannot participate in organized religion without harming society.

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                  6 小时前

                  Reread, I’m against the organization, not the personal connection to the faith in and connection with God directly.

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                    4 小时前

                    Is it the god of an organized religion? Do you call yourself a believer in that religion even if you don’t “support” it?

                    Which God? There are thousands. Judeo Christian God? Yeah you support the degradation of society. Doesn’t matter which denomination. You want to tell me how you can have a personal connection with someone else’s hallucination?