• @fluffplush
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    01 year ago

    They probably don’t have the same rate of crimes but Bill Clinton: War criminal responsible for bombings in Afghanistan, Sudan and especially Kosovo. Also a rapist. Obama: Drone strikes in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen.

      • @fluffplush
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        01 year ago

        I don’t understand what this means. Are warcrimes not crimes to you? Or do you not believe that they happened? In 2021, shortly after taking office, Biden bombed Syria and stole $9B from Afghanistan. Do you remember that? Were those not crimes to you?

        • Itty53
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          01 year ago

          It means you’re stretching far.

          Before you stammer out more rhetorical bullshit that serves as a strawman, let’s back up. My opinion on what crime means in the context here (and yours) don’t matter. It’s got a clear definition. In this case, we’re talking about US federal laws and elected party members who break them.

          The war crimes you’re talking about apply to virtually every major leader in the world if you look to see who’s on the other side of their money. That’s largely just a function of political opinion.

          Fact is the US isn’t a party to the pertinent bits of the Geneva Convention, which is your best example of an authority capable of prosecuting “war crimes”.

          The hard historical reality is that “war crimes” are what the winning side says of the differing tactics of the losing side.

          I’m not going to get sucked into a debate on the ethics and morals of geopolitics and the existence of warfare among the human species. That’s a fools errand to try to achieve anonymously online.

          • @fluffplush
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            11 year ago

            I neither stretch nor do I stammer. Killing civilians is a war crime and so is bombing hospitals or trying to starve a population. I’m also not sure why Americans have such a hard time grasping the fact that their country is a globe-spanning military empire, far beyond what “virtually every other major leader” has to answer for. Your federal law is only one part of what is or isn’t legitimate or worthy of prosecution. The world outside of your country’s jurisdiction matters and deserves justice as well.

            • Itty53
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              01 year ago

              You’re not wrong, you’re just being very picky about where you interject your view here. The context here was (until you changed it) American politics. You’re deliberately changing the context so you can trash one side of American politics as equivalent to the other. And you do that a lot. We can all see.

              What you’re doing isn’t clever, it’s transparent. You’re just interjecting “both sides” arguments everytime you encounter folks in support of Democrats. Your history is public, fyi.

              I can also assure you the nation you’re residing in today has skeletons in their closet too. Wanna test that theory? It is admittedly irrelevant to the topic of US politics, yes, but you’re the one making the comparison and you’re the one trying to tell people not to support Democrats because they’re just as bad as the Republicans. Nevermind being terrible shitty logic, let’s back up: are you even American? You talk as if you’re not. That’s telling us something in and of itself isn’t it?

              I’m happy to drag this out with you, you’ll only expose yourself more.

              • @fluffplush
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                11 year ago

                How is war not part of American politics? Obviously I interject that liberals are in many aspects equivalent to and supportive of conservative and fascist policies, if people claim that one side is better than the other. If people around here were claiming Republicans to be the better choice, I’d point to their crimes instead. I know full well about my countries past and present crimes and transgressions. The difference between us is that I don’t run around advocating for the liberals or the conservatives of my country and also there is the fact that my country isn’t a massive empire escalating violence all over the world and dominating the global economy for their own benefit.

                • Itty53
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                  01 year ago

                  If people around here were claiming Republicans to be the better choice, I’d point to their crimes instead

                  Again, your history doesn’t show you doing that, ever. Even if it did, this isn’t defensible. You’re just a troll. This right here is why I’m recommending everyone reading block you. And why I’m blocking you myself. You’re just a contrarian and that serves exactly one side and one side only. We know that hand over fist.

                  Now you know that, you can’t pretend you’ve never been told. If you honestly think you’re being genuine and not just a disingenuous shit, then I implore you: Go look in the mirror and question yourself a bit about this interaction.

                  Bye.