Does Internet still care looking onto steganographed/enciphered data?

As far as I remember the old Web, riddles and puzzles were quite common, everywhere from old social media and bulletin boards to blogs and their webrings.

Y’all may remember things such as Cicada 3301 and that 11b x 1371 cryptic YouTube video; of course, unless you’re not a millennial or zennial as I am.

How could these puzzles and riddles, useful for learning a plethora of things such as Math and ciphers and steganography, messages hiding in plain sight, are seemingly gone, nowhere to be found across the so-called modern Web of nowadays?

You’re currently facing one of those puzzles, except I’m just another dust in the wind so, to which extent it’s still a thing nowadays?

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Letting aside any attempt to fit a text into a steganography (it’s not easy to decipher a hidden message, but it’s definitely harder to craft one; yes, both the title and the previous text conceal three hidden messages), what truly happened, what is happening? It’s been a while since I stopped seeing and spotting such puzzles and riddles online.

I expected to find it the most across Fediverse and Geminispace, said to be places where humans are supposed to enjoy content with layers of depth and meaning… but, since I’ve been wandering around, even long-form content without hidden messages seems to be met with (seems like humans can’t trust lengthy texts such as this one, believing it’s AI-generated), as I observe my attempts on “being the change I crave for” being met with this… void… from the cold Web of nowadays.

Given how Web is essentially defined by human users (although Dead Internet has been a thing for some time), does this have something to do with the collective tiredness going on in the world, with humans too tired to try and focus on reading beyond the visible portion of a text they see online?

Perhaps it’s just the online analogous manifestation of “Dark Forest Hypothesis” (i.e. there are humans who’d engage with said content, but they’re hidden and keeping absolute silence, afraid of the possibility I’d be one of the ones they’re hiding from)?

Perhaps I’ve been just an unemployed and pedantic guy in a world where humans are too busy with mundaneness so they can’t afford the time to deal with all the effort required to read online content (textual or artistic) with all the depth it requires?

Or is it just my neurodivergence being unable to find meaningful connection with this neurotypical world?

Maybe the concept and practice of “hidden messages” are somehow associated with evil things or groups of people so humans refrain from dealing with something which would (in their minds) be potentially “dangerous” or “illegal”? (I once asked about the recent deactivation of the global live feed from mastodon.social and I got a reply explicitly conflating my interest in digitally-guided spiritual gnosis with “unsafe content”, two things completely unrelated).

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  • RoidingOldMan
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    If it’s on the internet archive, then it’s probably been scanned by AI.

    Not sure I understood your question.

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      Not sure I understood your question.

      You didn’t, but that’s okay. I was asking about my perceived lack of people’s engagement with content (not just mine) that requires some decoding, either technical (ciphers, such as Caesar, Vigenère and Playfair) and/or literary (steganography, such as the one I employed in my post) and/or symbolic (i.e. metaphysics references, “creative linguistics”, metaphors and “coded language”, semiotics). You probably don’t know (or don’t remember) the Cicada 3301 charades. I’m saying about things like that, from a time where the Web was a deep sandbox for creativity.

      What you might think as a text may be, in fact, a carrier for subtexts. In such cases, the visible sings while the invisible screeches, but few can perceive and extract the high-pitched nocturnal screech beyond the clear song… even worse, some people can’t even fathom the song. And as someone who hoots and screeches in the night, I can’t help but miss the times where the world were more receptive to these screeches, now every high-pitched noise is said to be “AI” because of how AIs have been annoyingly beeping lately. And, to break the fourth wall, this very paragraph is such an example of a text with a subtext (in this case, symbolic/poetic language), this is what my thread is about.

      If it’s on the internet archive, then it’s probably been scanned by AI.

      Ciphering and steganographic techniques aren’t limited to the existing ones. I myself sometimes enjoy creating new methods, many of which are far from trivial for current Language Models to decipher (some of my techniques involve multiple steps for decoding, some involve conceptual references and semiotics). I tested the clankers against many of my creations and, in most situations, they all failed laughably.

      Then the people, especially here in the Fediverse, often complain about LLMs but, as far as I can perceive (especially across the Fediverse), people seem to refrain from engaging with (or they’re unaware of) the very form of content that would protect them from LLMs, because those kinds of texts (such as this one I’m writing right now, and the one I initially posted) often “sound like AI” or something.