This may sound a bit dumb, but eh.

So when that WhatsApp privacy policy change thing happened in early 2021, I tried switching from WhatsApp to Signal and Telegram. Telegram kinda stuck with me since i still get news from there, but Signal… not really because I didn’t care about privacy back then. Now, I want to make the switch from WhatsApp to Signal, and I have a few plans on how to do that. But, is it worth it, since most people in Türkiye use Whatsapp and even if I switch my family and friends over to Signal, they’ll still use WhatsApp since most people are on there.

So, yeah. Should i try, or is it not worth doing? Let me know, also, thanks in advance!

(Note: Most of my family and friends don’t really care about privacy.)

(Note 2: This was also posted in c/[email protected], c/[email protected] communities, the m/[email protected] magazine and r/signal and r/privacy subreddits.)

  • CambionnEnglish
    7•1 year ago

    Yes. WhatsApp metadata is not E2EE, Signal’s is. So while Zuck can’t read your message, he knowns when you’re online, who you talk to, how often you talk to them, where you are when chatting, who are contacts in hour phone, etc. Honestly that E2EE is there more as a fake safety feeling than to protect you. Not even speaking about the closed source E2EE that you can’t check they don’t store a copy of keys from or scan before encrypting. Neither I would put above Meta.

    And even if those people still use WhatsApp with others, if they don’t with you Meta looses a lot of data about you.

    I would suggest not asking people to switch, but just telling people you don’t have WhatsApp anymore and they can reach you on Signal or send an SMS. If you keep it on the side while asking to switch barely anyone will. If you switch, well… after a year pretty much all my friends and family had switched, last few sending SMS. Sending photos en having group chats tend to get people to come over slowely one by one once they can’t fall back on WhatsApp. And while SMS isn’t encrypted, it also isn’t full of trackers. So for most regular people, they are better off as trackers are a bigger threat to them than a possible man-in-the-middle reading your messages.

    And in my experience, if you bring it with some tact and put the issue with you (i.e. I’m the crazy privacy guy") instead of them (“i.e. you shouldn’t use WhatsApp. You are stupid for not caring about privacy”) you won’t loose friend or get into fights about it.