• UnderpantsWeevil
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    2 days ago

    To get people to give them up, you will need a government to raid EVERYONES home, and take them by force.

    Modern ammunition has a shelf-life of around ten to fifteen years. You could always invoke the Chris Rock approach to gun control and deny people access to cheap bullets. Even if it didn’t “end gun violence”, it would seriously inhibit new ownership and the ability for inexperienced owners to practice.

    And who has guns then? Only criminals.

    That’s absurd logic. Setting aside the strawman argument that anyone anywhere close to legislative office is proposing a universal gun ban, the notion that only people convicted of a crime will own guns in the future if we make ownership illegal today is a reactionary dystopian fantasy.

    Best course of action, leave the US

    Once you get outside the United States, you’ll be safe from armed Americans breaking into your country and kidnapping your President.

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      The criminals already have the guns, thats the issue.

      Stopping ammo sales may help, but there’s many thousands of manual ammo reloaders out there. You’d have to stop manufacture of gunpowder too. It would make it harder though.

      None of this will happen ever so its pointless to argue

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        Even if you give regular folks more guns, it makes everyone less safe. The criminals don’t care what the law is and will always have guns, those European counties are no exception.

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        The criminals already have the guns

        Again, delusional. Convicts are consistently some of the least well-armed portions of the population, precisely because we have gun control laws that still specifically target them.

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          OK so no crimes are commtted by criminals because criminals dont have guns? This doesn’t seem right.

          Either way, people are not going to be left defenseless unless by force of government.

          I like the ammo limiting idea for the most part though.