• UnderpantsWeevil
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    3 days ago

    Does the world of ruin in VI really count?

    The world of the Espers isn’t ruined until its neighbors start looting it for magic.

    IX I also interpreted as two planets merging, but I can see the argument since there is clearly something magical/metaphysical happening.

    Goes beyond interpretation. They’re pretty explicit that Zidane and Kuja are both from another world. The last chapter of the game takes place on the other planet, if I’m not mistaken.

    VIII is also the same world/reality in my opinion, but with clear time travel and time compression.

    That’s fair. I forgot the time compression plot-line.

    XIII/XIII-2 are…complicated, but I’ll give you this one.

    Well, XIII is canonically a planet at war with its neighboring moon (Pulse and Cocoon), if I’m not totally mistaken. I’ll spot you that they sprinkling in a lot of extra meta-physics with XIII-2, but I didn’t like XIII enough to play it.

    Really like the core conceit of the story, but was not thrilled with the combat mechanics or the “Just walk down this very, very long hallway until you get to the end of the game” mechanic.

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      3 days ago

      The world of the Espers isn’t ruined until its neighbors start looting it for magic.

      Ah fair point, I somehow forgot about the world of Espers.

      Goes beyond interpretation. They’re pretty explicit that Zidane and Kuja are both from another world. The last chapter of the game takes place on the other planet, if I’m not mistaken.

      I would argue that the last chapter of the game takes place in a magical/metaphysical manifestation of the planet’s memories that is physically located above the Iifa tree. That’s why Kuja ends up inside of the Iifa tree, below where Memoria was.

      Throughout the game we see various locations from Terra that have merged with Gaia, and when going through the portal on the shimmering island we see Terra itself. My understanding was always that Terra was physically within Gaia due to a failed fusion between the two planets, as shown within Memoria.

      Also, Zidane and Kuja being from “another world” meant “another planet within the same reality” in my interpretation within this specific context. It’s entirely possible we’ve only been arguing over semantics in these cases.

      Well, XIII is canonically a planet at war with its neighboring moon (Pulse and Cocoon), if I’m not totally mistaken. I’ll spot you that they sprinkling in a lot of extra meta-physics with XIII-2, but I didn’t like XIII enough to play it.

      Really like the core conceit of the story, but was not thrilled with the combat mechanics or the “Just walk down this very, very long hallway until you get to the end of the game” mechanic.

      Even if you consider Cocoon a moon of Pulse, does that really count as another world and not just another location within the same world and reality? IV would also count in that case since that is explicitly the planet against agents from the moon (and VIII arguably as well).