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What has the hate symbol as an avatar?
The hammer and sickle is a hate symbol
Could you kindly explain how it represents hate?
It has been and continues to be the symbol of regimes that have oppressed and tried to destroy a number of indigenous cultures in Eastern Europe and Asia
Does that mean nearly every European flag and the US and Canadian flags are hate symbols in your perspective?
Sort of, especially the US flag bc of how it’s continued to be used, but not to the same degree, because they represent nations instead of a specific hateful ideology. The Confederate flag, on the other hand, is 100% a hate symbol.
So would I be understanding correctly that to you, socialism itself is a hateful ideology, and therefore the hammer and sickle is a hate symbol?
No, that would not be understanding me correctly. I never said anything about socialism at all, much less anything about it being a hateful ideology, and thus a connection to socialism could not have been the basis for my position on the hammer and sickle being a hate symbol.
I’m not sure what this part of your comment means then: "but not to the same degree, because they represent nations instead of a specific hateful ideology. "
I’m just trying to understand your position. You mentioned that you think it is a hate symbol because “It has been and continues to be the symbol of regimes that have oppressed and tried to destroy a number of indigenous cultures in Eastern Europe and Asia”. However that is true of symbols used by many governments, especially in the colonial era, yet you say they are “not to the same degree”.
The symbol being discussed is the hammer and sickle, representative of the working class, regardless of immutable characteristics, working together to advance their their rights, make their material conditions better, and to liberate themselves from oppression by capitalist interests. I’m trying to understand how you see it as a symbol of hate.
If your talking about Stalinist Marxism-Leninism (which I agree is a bit questionable on what they did and what they support), you should know there is many form of communism using this symbol, even pacifist and lib ones (even marxism used this symbol at the time)
That’s not unlike the situation with the swastika, but in the West it’s still a symbol of hate
The hammer and the sickle are not a symbol of hate for the West, but only for capitalism and fascism. To my eyes, the real symbol of hate is the Dollar