• blueryth
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    Stepped right on some ml land mines with this one. For what it’s worth, I’ll back you up a bit. I don’t think all actions have strict utilitarian needs. There is a mountain of soft value to these large scale actions that go missing when we focus only on concrete progress.

    If nothing else, these are obvious community building and networking opportunities. The US is starved of these opportunities, and rather than turning our noses up, should be engaged with. Pissing and moaning about structure loses the forest for the trees.

    We don’t have examples of these movements being effective without targeted and concrete goals, but we also forget all examples of the moments in between these landmarks. It’s important to develop this momentum into structural progress, rather than upset that the average person is more willing to participate in less-targeted action. Progress doesn’t have prescribed structure, despite what many suggest. Take wins where you can and keep working.

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      If nothing else, these are obvious community building and networking opportunities. The US is starved of these opportunities …

      americans are indeed starved, but it’s not an accident we find ourselves in this condition.

      it’s also true that these could serve a networking oppurtunity, but given american’s collectivism-phobia, it’s going to literally take generations using things like the no kings to make a dent.

      you’re not wrong, like most arent, you’re just missing some blanks and most of us here can see some of them like i just did.

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      Love this. I think people expect to work through things with the same understanding that they look back on them with.

      We have actually mobilized a record number of people. If we’re having the argument about where to point them, I think people are missing the point that it’s the right problem to have.