The instance is currently federated with every instance (including places like lemmygrad and explodingheads) as the current stance is defederation should be a last resort with users being able to choose what they want to see instead
Exploding heads has some very questionable content though so its status is currently being discussed by the admins
In some respect, it is. For example, users don’t get to decide that they want to see defederated content without creating a new account somewhere else.
I understand the reasoning but I think it’s not the same situation as lemmygrad, which I feel is a normal instance with an ideological bent. Exploding heads is just violent propaganda. I hope you defederate.
What about hexbear? Is programming.dev federated with them? Or are they intentionally defederated with everyone?
hexbear split off and has been running their own fork for awhile separate from the rest of lemmy (so they couldnt federate with lemmy instances). They are coming back now though so lemmy instances will start to be able to interact with them soon
Ah yeah just checked and looks like I see can see their communites, didnt realize they already joined in. So yes we are federated with them atm, just if a community hasnt been subscribed to yet by anyone the posts from it wont show up in the feeds
I think it might be due to discoverability? I remember reading something about that. If no one in this instance is subscribed to an external community, the server doesn’t load their posts, or something like that.
While I’m personally bias (see right above), from my experience the general content in alt right spaces (I’ve been on wolfballs, idk about exploding heads tho) is a bit more unhinged than general content on Marxist/left unity spaces. I mean we MLs agree with the “vaguely leftist” person more than a alt right person.
I personally like to try meeting people where they are and don’t block as long as the content isn’t harmful. And imho a random person on the internet saying a 19th century philosopher was right is not that harmful, especially compared to people down the alt right rabbit hole (yes I’m oversimplifing).
The content that occasionally ended up in my All feed was mostly Hate against trans people (I.e. being happy about people’s suicide), or complete nonsense conspiracies.
I am not a fan of reaching for defederation often; I actually came here from beehaw because I felt like they just pulled that trigger too fast and too frequently.
However, I do think that we should defederate from exploding-heads and hexbear. I don’t go looking for chances to be offended, but I do notice that when I see something truly distasteful on All it is almost exclusively from one of those two lately, and at this point removing them from All would make my lemmy experience just a bit more friendly.
It’s not even worth reporting content about them because when you do it seems like a common theme is that they just tag you so they can harass you. I tested this myself recently by reporting obvious misinformation/propaganda and the next time I logged in there were indeed items waiting in my inbox calling me a coward, etc.
Edit: fun fact, even if you block a user, and you block the community they are posting from, any time they mention you in a post you still get a message in your inbox, which seems like a pretty ridiculous oversight and a tool for harassment.
The instance is currently federated with every instance (including places like lemmygrad and explodingheads) as the current stance is defederation should be a last resort with users being able to choose what they want to see instead
Exploding heads has some very questionable content though so its status is currently being discussed by the admins
I wish there were a way to block entire instances per user.
It is an option in Sync for Lemmy at least.
Also Connect.
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This is actively being discussed too
This would make my life so much easier
Yeah it should be a per user decision…
Server runners should be able to make their own decisions too.
this is not mutually exclusive
In some respect, it is. For example, users don’t get to decide that they want to see defederated content without creating a new account somewhere else.
Sorry if that was obvious and pedantic to say.
I understand the reasoning but I think it’s not the same situation as lemmygrad, which I feel is a normal instance with an ideological bent. Exploding heads is just violent propaganda. I hope you defederate.
What about hexbear? Is programming.dev federated with them? Or are they intentionally defederated with everyone?
hexbear split off and has been running their own fork for awhile separate from the rest of lemmy (so they couldnt federate with lemmy instances). They are coming back now though so lemmy instances will start to be able to interact with them soon
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Ah yeah just checked and looks like I see can see their communites, didnt realize they already joined in. So yes we are federated with them atm, just if a community hasnt been subscribed to yet by anyone the posts from it wont show up in the feeds
I can enter a community but I can’t see any posts. For example: https://programming.dev/c/[email protected]
Weird, what might be happening is posts from before they were federated dont show up but ones after are. Theres posts in [email protected]
I think it might be due to discoverability? I remember reading something about that. If no one in this instance is subscribed to an external community, the server doesn’t load their posts, or something like that.
Edit: OH what a dummy, you just said that lol.
Thanks for the info.
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Their interactions in threads were unpleasant, and a small group of them were persistently provoking lemmyworld users.
If you search exploding-heads you might come across some examples, if they haven’t been nuked from that instance.
Aside from that, I find Hexbear users really pleasant, and I’ve never seen a lemmygrad user provoke anyone 🤷♂️
While I’m personally bias (see right above), from my experience the general content in alt right spaces (I’ve been on wolfballs, idk about exploding heads tho) is a bit more unhinged than general content on Marxist/left unity spaces. I mean we MLs agree with the “vaguely leftist” person more than a alt right person.
I personally like to try meeting people where they are and don’t block as long as the content isn’t harmful. And imho a random person on the internet saying a 19th century philosopher was right is not that harmful, especially compared to people down the alt right rabbit hole (yes I’m oversimplifing).
The content that occasionally ended up in my All feed was mostly Hate against trans people (I.e. being happy about people’s suicide), or complete nonsense conspiracies.
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I am not a fan of reaching for defederation often; I actually came here from beehaw because I felt like they just pulled that trigger too fast and too frequently.
However, I do think that we should defederate from exploding-heads and hexbear. I don’t go looking for chances to be offended, but I do notice that when I see something truly distasteful on All it is almost exclusively from one of those two lately, and at this point removing them from All would make my lemmy experience just a bit more friendly.
It’s not even worth reporting content about them because when you do it seems like a common theme is that they just tag you so they can harass you. I tested this myself recently by reporting obvious misinformation/propaganda and the next time I logged in there were indeed items waiting in my inbox calling me a coward, etc.
Edit: fun fact, even if you block a user, and you block the community they are posting from, any time they mention you in a post you still get a message in your inbox, which seems like a pretty ridiculous oversight and a tool for harassment.