Do 5 year olds have email? Because it’s kind of like that. You have an email address “[email protected]” and you can send a message to “[email protected]”. You don’t both have to be on Gmail.
Well fediverse apps are kind of like this. Imagine lots of little reddits with their own communities and user bases.
You are [email protected]. You can talk to [email protected]. Same goes for magazines/communities (subreddits). If you want to join a magazine on another server, you can do that like @technology (notice the leading @ symbol which tells Kbin that it’s a magazine and not a user).
This is what is most important for the average user to understand about the fediverse. There is a ton more than this like interoperability with different apps that aren’t thread based like Kbin and Lemmy like Mastodon but that’s a different discussion.
@JonEFive@s804 really? Kbin uses @ to identify it’s a magazine, when every other platform on the 'verse (GNU Social, Friendica, Lemmy, etc.) uses ! to identify that its a group?
Ok, I had to play with this a bit to try to see what’s going on because I have seen the ! notation elsewhere as well. It looks like if I type !community@instance ( [email protected] ) it creates a link automatically but it takes me to /m/!community instead of just /m/community. If I use @community@instance ( @technology ) it takes me to /m/community. Interestingly though, the @ notation looks like it also works for users but also has the odd problem of including the @ symbol in the link when the address isn’t expecting it @[email protected] ( @jonefive ) takes me to /u/@jonefive but it should be /u/jonefive
@JonEFive@s804 I know Mastodon doesn’t recognize the !. Using the @ will let you comment on posts from a community you are following, (and all posts to the community show as if the community “user” re-tooted them all in your feed), but posting original posts from Mastodon doesn’t work well. It used to not work at all, since Mastodon implemented the ActivityPubl implementation for Title “wrong” (a title from another instance shows as a Content warning on Mastodon, and posting a Content warning on mastodon doesn’t show like a title anywhere unless they have software specifically designed to recognize its from mastodon and handle it differently) I know there had been a lemmy change to specifically use the first line of a toot from mastodon to @communityname@instan.ce as a title to a new post, but I have only seen it ever look like garbage. Even though Mastodon is by far the most popular platfrom on the 'verse its really the least feature rich. Even the granddaddy of them all (GNU Social) has more features, though the code isn’t regularly maintained (v3 being released feels like “when Covid is over” level of never).
Wondering if this has something to do with why kbin isn’t federating properly with some groups. That and the case sensitivity thing. [email protected] does not work on kbin.social no matter how I try to search or format the url.
@s804@JonEFive my understanding is #Kbin is the new kid on the block, with lots of promise, one of the reasons i created a different kbin.social account weeks ago. My understanding is that original implementation had been done only in Polish from within Poland and is just now reaching the rest of the world.
Do 5 year olds have email? Because it’s kind of like that. You have an email address “[email protected]” and you can send a message to “[email protected]”. You don’t both have to be on Gmail.
Well fediverse apps are kind of like this. Imagine lots of little reddits with their own communities and user bases.
You are [email protected]. You can talk to [email protected]. Same goes for magazines/communities (subreddits). If you want to join a magazine on another server, you can do that like @technology (notice the leading @ symbol which tells Kbin that it’s a magazine and not a user).
This is what is most important for the average user to understand about the fediverse. There is a ton more than this like interoperability with different apps that aren’t thread based like Kbin and Lemmy like Mastodon but that’s a different discussion.
Edit: The community link should probably start with an ! as suggested by @fu but there is a known issue with formatting presently: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/199
@JonEFive @s804 really? Kbin uses @ to identify it’s a magazine, when every other platform on the 'verse (GNU Social, Friendica, Lemmy, etc.) uses ! to identify that its a group?
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Ok, I had to play with this a bit to try to see what’s going on because I have seen the ! notation elsewhere as well. It looks like if I type !community@instance ( [email protected] ) it creates a link automatically but it takes me to /m/!community instead of just /m/community. If I use @community@instance ( @technology ) it takes me to /m/community. Interestingly though, the @ notation looks like it also works for users but also has the odd problem of including the @ symbol in the link when the address isn’t expecting it @[email protected] ( @jonefive ) takes me to /u/@jonefive but it should be /u/jonefive
Edit: There’s an issue logged for this: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/199
@JonEFive @s804 while reading I was going to recommend you open an issue, but you beat me to it!
@JonEFive @s804 I know Mastodon doesn’t recognize the !. Using the @ will let you comment on posts from a community you are following, (and all posts to the community show as if the community “user” re-tooted them all in your feed), but posting original posts from Mastodon doesn’t work well. It used to not work at all, since Mastodon implemented the ActivityPubl implementation for Title “wrong” (a title from another instance shows as a Content warning on Mastodon, and posting a Content warning on mastodon doesn’t show like a title anywhere unless they have software specifically designed to recognize its from mastodon and handle it differently) I know there had been a lemmy change to specifically use the first line of a toot from mastodon to
@communityname@instan.ceas a title to a new post, but I have only seen it ever look like garbage. Even though Mastodon is by far the most popular platfrom on the 'verse its really the least feature rich. Even the granddaddy of them all (GNU Social) has more features, though the code isn’t regularly maintained (v3 being released feels like “when Covid is over” level of never).Wondering if this has something to do with why kbin isn’t federating properly with some groups. That and the case sensitivity thing. [email protected] does not work on kbin.social no matter how I try to search or format the url.
@s804 @JonEFive my understanding is #Kbin is the new kid on the block, with lots of promise, one of the reasons i created a different kbin.social account weeks ago. My understanding is that original implementation had been done only in Polish from within Poland and is just now reaching the rest of the world.