I’m a conservative. I don’t mind the liberal stuff here. It’s good to learn the other side, but I don’t want a liberal echo chamber. I’d like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

  • @[email protected]
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    Anyone who votes for a party that supports racism, banning books, and trying to make it harder for people to vote is not “nice enough”.

    They are an evil piece of shit who is making the country a miserable place to live.

    • trainsaresexy
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      91 year ago

      I agree with this but we aren’t talking about castings votes here and I’m assuming OP is voting as if he is a sane person, but what are they supposed to do with the values they hold that don’t align with liberalism?

      • @[email protected]
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        31 year ago

        I would decide which is worse: the things I listed, or the things the voter may dislike about liberal policies like free healthcare for all.

      • @Eldritch
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        but what are they supposed to do with the values they hold that don’t align with liberalism?

        Grow as a person. Something we should all strive to do. There are plenty of places I diverged from all the hard right liberals. Mostly around the capitalism fetish. But I can support them at least because of their more pro social democracy stance. But I can articulate and explain the logic why when asked. As a socialist I also diverge heavily from anti social democracy socialists. And again, can general explain and point out the reasons why. Things most of my fellow Americans have little understanding of or desire too. But none of us are perfect, nor will we ever be. But that isn’t a reason to stop growing.

    • @Snowman44OP
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      31 year ago

      I only vote republican when they have good views. I’d rather get rid of political parties and make people run on merit alone.

    • xigoi
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      If you have only two choices and both are bad, you have to choose the lesser evil. The OP probably doesn’t like the racism and stuff, but they dislike certain policies of the other party even more.

      Also, “trying to make it harder for people to vote” is an interesting way to say “requiring people to bring their citizen ID when voting, like in any civilized country”.

      • @[email protected]
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        I would say that the dismantling of human rights would be a greater evil than the things the democrats could cook up, but if you are not affected and have no empathy for others it could be better to vote for the republicans.

        And werent the conditions to be able to vote pretty restrictive to a lot of people?

        • xigoi
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          I live in a country where identification is required for voting and it doesn’t feel restrictive. On the contrary, I’m glad someone can’t just vote in my name.

          • Jaytreeman
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            101 year ago

            In the US the largest group of people without id’s are Democrats and black.

            It’s literally making the system more racist.

            • xigoi
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              -41 year ago

              So the question is, why doesn’t everyone have IDs? How does the country identify its citizens?

              • @gamermanh
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                IDs cost money, require visits to DMVs (which conservatives work hard to shut down in poor areas, or other fuckery with their hours or such), and if you want the federal level one cost more and require more paperwork

                We use the garbage and not-designed-for-this social security number for major IDing

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                Because the republicans work very hard to make it difficult for people who would likely vote democrat.

              • synae[he/him]
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                If you got an ID sent to you when you turned $AGE I’d support requiring it to vote. But any proposal of free/automatic IDs gets shouted down by fanatics who think it’s the mark of the beast from Revelations. It’s a non-starter.

            • @[email protected]
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              Every black person has an ID, you have to otherwise you can’t do anything anyways. I have never met anyone in my community who doesn’t have some form of ID that’s valid in elections.

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            In my country:

            • We have a mandatory national ID
            • Having it automatically registers you as a voter after 16 y.o.
            • Voting is mandatory between 18 and 70.
            • We vote on Sundays to ensure everyone can go.
            • Voting in always in person. We usually use schools to that end, windows are obscured to ensure secrecy.
            • We record who voted following the electoral registry. Only the last issued national ID is valid to vote.
      • Bidoof_is_Awesome
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        91 year ago

        There’s far more to making voting more difficult than just requiring an ID. For example, I believe it was Texas that relatively recently lowered its number of voting stations in left-leaning areas and made it illegal to give people water that were waiting in line to vote.

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        I’m thinking specifically of gerrymandering but this article covers the many voter disenfranchisement methods used by Republicans in the US in the past decades:

        https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/stacking-the-deck-how-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/

        ETA: I see you wrote that you “live in a country where identification is required for voting” so you might not understand the American history of voter suppression. This article should give a good introduction. There are many more methods being used today, including requiring IDs. Many, many more methods.