• captainlezbian
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    11 hours ago

    Modern western ideas where the most important part of sexual orientation is who you find attractive is somewhat new, and while it’s gained a lot of popularity among queer people worldwide it’s still not the default model everywhere. In a lot of times and places things such as who you have sex with regardless of attraction or what role you take in sex are considered more important (also at what age). Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people were to see a man who only has receptive sex and exclusively with women as more gay than a man who exclusively tops men.

    I also wouldn’t be surprised if they’re thinking that a straight man might be willing to top a man to get out of the military, but not to bottom

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      11 hours ago

      who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.

      ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn’t even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.

      it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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        10 hours ago

        Welcome to the old Greek/romen model! Sexuality is a matter of position and power dynamics. Not sexual attraction.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 hours ago

      The absurd byzantine rules people create for themselves around this shit is wild. Why can’t humans just let people consensually fuck whomever they want?