This is a genuine question, as every time I have an argument about this with someone they bring a point so utterly stupid that it leaves me stumped…

    • Hyperreality
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      In The Matrix (1999) the protaganist takes a red pill, discovers he’s been living in a simulation, and what the world is the really like.

      ‘Red pill’ has been co-opted by various far right movements to mean someone finally sees the ‘truth’.

      Most commonly it’s used by incels and misogynists. Think Andrew Tate and various pickup artist influencers.

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          Oh, but it gets better than that.

          The Wachowskis, who directed the Matrix and transitioned, have admitted that the Matrix is actually in large part a trans allegory. Apparently one the pills used to transition was literally a red pill.

          Which is why, if I remember correctly, when at one point Ivanka Trump and Elon Musk tweeted about taking the red pill, one of the Wachowskis replied that they should go fuck themselves.

          Ah, what a time to be alive.

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      “I’m the best, I’m gonna be the best at everything, fuck feminists, worship millionaires because they are rich” That sort of stuff. The funny thing is that 90% of people who think like that don’t even know what the word feminist actually means…

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        Also, the Matrix is a trans allegory/metaphor, and the red pill is based on one of the hormone pills the Wachowskis likely used to transition.

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        Somebody has recommended you street epistemology already. An important part of it is to talk using the same concepts.

        I say this because my understanding of the red pill comes from the documentary The Red Pill. It roughly means that you are aware of the issues men face in modern societies and care about them. That caring about men’s rights does not mean that you hate women.

        And because of that I initially thought that trying to convince someone that “red pill mentality is stupid” was the stupid thing.

        • @xylogx
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          That is where they start but it ends up becoming the He-Man Woman Haters club.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m veeery late on the technology and culture wave. I only discovered reddit last year and use a smart phone when I absolutely have to.