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Honestly this is absurd. These death machines shouldn’t be legal in europe. That thing doesn’t even fit in the parking space, even though the parking lot has the biggest spaces in the whole city. The Golf Polo is so small in comparison, it could even hide in front of the engine hood of the truck.
EDIT: It’s a Polo and not a Golf, I don’t know my cars, sorry for that!
It’s mostly about them being unnecessary. Wasted fuel economy, wasted parking space, safety risks to anyone else on or near the road, etc.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen today. Saying a truck is unnecessary simply because you have no use for one is ridiculous. Are we all really going to ignore the fact that they are incredibly useful? Towing capacity alone. People gotta move big things from one spot to another regularly. As for a waste of parking space, do you normally fit 2 cars in 1 spot? What difference does it make if you’re using the whole spot as opposed to half of it? This whole thread doesn’t make sense to me. For the record, I don’t own one, but would if I could afford one lol.
Well, in that case both of these vehicles are highly wasteful as they burn fossil fuels, contributing to climate change. They get fairly equivalent gas mileage too. Now, compared to an electric vehicle…
But at least they are both riding the train!
Trolling?
Hatchbacks go for about 35 mpg. Extended cab trucks usually manage about 20-24.
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That’s like the whole point of this community?
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Mostly because taxes subsidize this unnecessary thing to a large degree (about half of vehicle costs are from taxes, according to that recent study out of Boston) and because the primacy this thing is given in society and urban planning, reducing mobility for public transit, walking, and reduced-mobility transit.
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Personal motor vehicles in general. Pickups for personal use particularly.
I own a pickup truck as a legacy from when I lived in rural Canada, it is unnecessary. Any vehicle should be unnecessary, but is due to decades of policy and urban design decisions.
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It’s unfortunate you think we shouldn’t have the infrastructure in place so people don’t need to be reliant on cars.
For probably 16 years at the beginning, very likely a few years at the end, and probably some months in between; you are/will be unable to drive. Some people are unable to drive ever. During these periods of non-driving, we reduce people’s ability to participate on the things the want to, while simultaneously spending enormous tax funds on making driving “better”.
This is an intrinsically unfair system, though it is not uncommon (and logically understandable) for people with the means and ability to drive to want to maintain this recent status quo.
I can’t say I am blameless, as I still drive and own a vehicle. But I do hope that be the time I can no longer drive, I can still get to all the things I like. I also hope that if my children are unable, or chose not, to drive then their mobility will not hindered or limited.
Cars should be returned to luxury status, not a forced trap that impoverishes people and cities.
If you consider my view radical, than you may want to reconsider your participation in c/fuckcars
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They can feel righteous about this issue. They feel powerless just like the rest of us but they get some satisfaction about taking out frustration on someone they feel deserves it.
Once upon a time, people said the same about asbestos. Now, we don’t have homes lined with asbestos anymore. How do you think that happened? Don’t say “magic” or “totalitarian government control”.
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If you don’t want to discuss it, then don’t discuss it. Don’t say you don’t want to discuss it, and then discuss it anyway.
You haven’t even made a point. You’ve described a landscape that has a poor public transit infrastructure, and made absolutely no justification as to why it can’t be fixed. Even if I were to assume you’re saying it’d cost too much to put in more tramways or even just more frequent buses on more routes, you’re completely ignoring the spending and infrastructure that goes into every household on your island getting one car for transit; that cost is going somewhere anyway as long as people need to go places. Most likely, that money is just spent individually rather than on shared solutions that benefit everyone for far less spending.
I’ve been to Salzburg in Austria, and its hillyness and small, local roadways sound exactly what you’re describing. It uses small streets that prevent walking from becoming an extended, sweaty affair, and it has tram lines that get you from one end of town to the other, very reliably.
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