• decavolt
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    102 years ago

    People sure like to dunk on PHP. I’ll take whatever flak for this, but this is the kind of meme a .NET fanboy or Ruby on Rails bro would make when they haven’t touched any languages other then their prescious, and don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

    PHP, after all these years, is STILL running 78% of all sites. That’s not because it’s garbage or the worst. It’s solid, reliable, mature and very well documented. And I say this as someone who has gladly moved to Python, but also work in in others.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      Most of the hate for php was born back in version 3 or 4, when it was a mess. Also a lot of people who where in college in those years learned php as a first language.

      Combine a language that does not enforce good coding practices and a lot of people making their first website, and you get some pretty horrible codebases.

      As part of my job is to maintain legacy php websites, I’ve seen lovercraftian nightmares. I love modern php, but I get where all this hate is coming from.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Once I had to fix a website with everything in the same script. Every page, every bit of html with inlne CSS and Javascript, was there in a gigantic sequence of else if, with functions (with embedded business logic) to output the common bits.

          I mean, the streets of R’yleh were more navigable than… that.

      • decavolt
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        12 years ago

        Yep. It’s almost always a matter of bad programming practices rather than bad language.

    • @Freesoftwareenjoyer
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      32 years ago

      People who say those things usually don’t know the language very well or haven’t used it at all. I see the same with JavaScript. I don’t get why some programmers are so ignorant.

    • @axtualdave
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      32 years ago

      Popularity doesn’t necessarily imply good. For example, we used to put lead in all the gasoline.

    • Ethan
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      12 years ago

      PHP was the first language I did any significant coding in. I will never use it again if I can at all avoid it.