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You’re missing the point of federation, the entire crux that Lemmy was built on. You’re not hosting the content, they’re not inherently damaging the ecosystem itself, yet the admins have taken unilateral action to remove access to a community.
Doesn’t this show the whole point of federation? That the owners of the community can pick and choose what they want their community to have access to, but it can’t take down anything not on their own instance? LW defederates or blocks a specific community, the people who care migrate to another instance or just access that blocked community directly, everyone moves on.
No, that is the whole point of federation. The admins of an instance have full power over their own instance, but nothing else. That was the entire design of the fediverse. Anyone can spin up their own instance and curate it to their hearts content without affecting anything outside of their instance.
No shit the admins of an instance have the ability to unilaterally remove access to a community. It’s their damn instance. That’s the point of everything. Join an instance that shares your values, or make your own little instance with only you as a user and federate with whatever you want to federate with.
Everything is still shaking out. Expect changes, don’t put down roots until you are happy with where you are. Try out a few places and see what feels the most like you in the long run. Lemmy.world is in a position where they have to avoid drama. They are the biggest community and people are watching them the most closely. When something like this starts up, it can ruffle alot of feathers. People that will be itching to find something wrong with it that they can use to “prove it was bad the whole time”.
There are still plenty of options. If you like doing things that might be risky for lemmy.world to be associated with, a smaller server is likely a better bet for you. They can hide and wait to see what happens to larger more obvious servers first before deciding what level of risk is right for them.
And the tools to completely and easily swap to a new server are still being written. By the time a small server has reason to decide to take less risks, those tools will be ready to assist at the push of a button.
You’re missing the point of federation, the entire crux that Lemmy was built on. You’re not hosting the content, they’re not inherently damaging the ecosystem itself, yet the admins have taken unilateral action to remove access to a community.
Sure, but I can stop using lemmy.world and carry on as normal without any issue on another instance. Problem solved.
If reddit bans r/piracy, there’s… nothing I can really do.
It sucks, but this is a benefit that federation brings.
Doesn’t this show the whole point of federation? That the owners of the community can pick and choose what they want their community to have access to, but it can’t take down anything not on their own instance? LW defederates or blocks a specific community, the people who care migrate to another instance or just access that blocked community directly, everyone moves on.
No, that is the whole point of federation. The admins of an instance have full power over their own instance, but nothing else. That was the entire design of the fediverse. Anyone can spin up their own instance and curate it to their hearts content without affecting anything outside of their instance.
No shit the admins of an instance have the ability to unilaterally remove access to a community. It’s their damn instance. That’s the point of everything. Join an instance that shares your values, or make your own little instance with only you as a user and federate with whatever you want to federate with.
That’s the design of the fediverse.
Everything is still shaking out. Expect changes, don’t put down roots until you are happy with where you are. Try out a few places and see what feels the most like you in the long run. Lemmy.world is in a position where they have to avoid drama. They are the biggest community and people are watching them the most closely. When something like this starts up, it can ruffle alot of feathers. People that will be itching to find something wrong with it that they can use to “prove it was bad the whole time”.
There are still plenty of options. If you like doing things that might be risky for lemmy.world to be associated with, a smaller server is likely a better bet for you. They can hide and wait to see what happens to larger more obvious servers first before deciding what level of risk is right for them.
And the tools to completely and easily swap to a new server are still being written. By the time a small server has reason to decide to take less risks, those tools will be ready to assist at the push of a button.