Sorry if it sounded like I was downplaying how it is now, I swear that wasn’t my intent! There is certainly no shortage of assholes.
I was just saying that early on it was like EVERY girl got dogpiled EVERY time they spoke. I’ve had women in my gaming group since TFC was current and it wasn’t until maybe 2016 (overwatch) when they felt comfortable openly speaking in game.
Oh no worries, I didn’t take it like that. Just saying in my experience it’s just a different kind of bad. People can be more subtle, but it’s still there.
To your point - maybe what has changed is the amount of assholes but the amount of people willing to call out that behavior. Losers are a lot less likely to get on their soapbox when attempts at sexism sometime result in half the lobby turning on them.
Manchildren are happy to shit talk someone they think is “lesser” but tremble in their boots when a man stands up to them.
This doesn’t affect the ones with inflated egos but a good portion of them are insecure as hell.
I agree. The open dialogue about sexism makes it a less safe space for those kinds of people. Unfortunately the subtle sexism can be a lot more frustrating. It’s just less in open chat and more in dms.
Can’t help with the DM part but what’s some subtle stuff to look out for? Genuinely asking as I might not know to notice. Give me some stuff (if you want) so I’ve got relevant oneliners in the bag to throw at em lol
It’s all so unique and individual it’s hard to say. Super appreciate you asking, though.
A lot of guys have gotten ridiculously nice once they found out I’m a chick, but quickly became controlling or spiteful when I didn’t reciprocate or want to chat with them outside the game.
Sometimes they just fuck me over but have a convenient excuse. Like refusing to heal or wait an extra five seconds after a spell/ability/whatever is charged for me to die first, then kill the boss/pancake monster/whatever.
It’s the same in games as real life, they’ll find little ways to make a woman’s day worse but always have some kind of excuse. It seems legit until it becomes a pattern.
Sorry if it sounded like I was downplaying how it is now, I swear that wasn’t my intent! There is certainly no shortage of assholes.
I was just saying that early on it was like EVERY girl got dogpiled EVERY time they spoke. I’ve had women in my gaming group since TFC was current and it wasn’t until maybe 2016 (overwatch) when they felt comfortable openly speaking in game.
Oh no worries, I didn’t take it like that. Just saying in my experience it’s just a different kind of bad. People can be more subtle, but it’s still there.
To your point - maybe what has changed is the amount of assholes but the amount of people willing to call out that behavior. Losers are a lot less likely to get on their soapbox when attempts at sexism sometime result in half the lobby turning on them.
Manchildren are happy to shit talk someone they think is “lesser” but tremble in their boots when a man stands up to them.
This doesn’t affect the ones with inflated egos but a good portion of them are insecure as hell.
I agree. The open dialogue about sexism makes it a less safe space for those kinds of people. Unfortunately the subtle sexism can be a lot more frustrating. It’s just less in open chat and more in dms.
Can’t help with the DM part but what’s some subtle stuff to look out for? Genuinely asking as I might not know to notice. Give me some stuff (if you want) so I’ve got relevant oneliners in the bag to throw at em lol
It’s all so unique and individual it’s hard to say. Super appreciate you asking, though.
A lot of guys have gotten ridiculously nice once they found out I’m a chick, but quickly became controlling or spiteful when I didn’t reciprocate or want to chat with them outside the game.
Sometimes they just fuck me over but have a convenient excuse. Like refusing to heal or wait an extra five seconds after a spell/ability/whatever is charged for me to die first, then kill the boss/pancake monster/whatever.
It’s the same in games as real life, they’ll find little ways to make a woman’s day worse but always have some kind of excuse. It seems legit until it becomes a pattern.