Like, if you actually took the advice I see women suggest, those same women are still going to reject you. No amount of showers or therapy will change that for an incel. There is absolutely no incentive to change whatsoever and I don’t understand why women don’t see this? They will even try to tell romantically successful men to change, but what is the incentive if they are already successful? It is so bizarre to me that they feel so entitled that they think other people should bend over backwards to their moral standards