It’s apparent. I think the left while more principled than the right doesn’t think strategically like the right. The right shows up consistently for their agenda of hate and disenfranchisement. Meanwhile, we are willing to let it all go to hell if it means having to suffer someone we don’t agree with 95%+ because then they’re just as bad as the other person.
The right shows up because they have funding from billionaires that allows them to be bussed in to the capital en masse, get legal funds covered, influencers get paid to spread fascism all over social media. The left doesn’t have the funding in the west like the fascist billionaires give to the right.
This is recent though. The modern right galvanized on deregulation, abortion, undoing “entitlements,” and civil rights advances in the 70s-80s and showed up consistently since then at local, state and federal elections in pursuit of that. Leftists show up if they like someone and won’t if they don’t. Or at least this is my observation from living in red vs blue areas. I will concede with you though that not having funding is a relative weakness of ours and has also played a role in shaping our current environment.
Genocide – by which I assume you singularly mean Palestine as I doubt you care as much about other ones going on (e.g.in Sudan, Myanmar) – is not the only issue. (And before you insinuate I don’t care about Gaza, I donate to organizations that provide aid there as well as other international crises as the war in the DRC, etc.) There’s other important issues like climate change, dismantling the prison industrial complex, restoring reproductive rights, healthcare reform, reigning in the surveillance techbros, etc. I assume you support at least the majority of these. These are all ‘important issues’ and losing ground on these has the potential to harm millions domestically and abroad.
As with the other commenter, I doubt you care about the genocide in Sudan or Myanmar and singularly mean Palestine. After all, we POC here in the States are so clearly expendable to you why would you care about most other POC abroad? With Palestine you get to meme on Israel all day (which is where the caring starts and ends as the online left is so averse to putting in work to effect change but somehow expect to win a revolution someday lol). With Sudan, Myanmar, there’s no reward from that as there’s no state with near the notoriety of Israel to meme on and it’s not like you’re going to actually put in work so why bother?
Genocides are bad. Your tax money and weapons of mass destruction are being used to systematically eradicate one particular people. I do care about Sudan and Myanmar, as I said all genocides are bad, the only difference is that YOU are directly responsible for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. Does that help clear things up?
Your tax money and weapons of mass destruction are being used to systematically eradicate one particular people.
Multiple bullshit wars and what’s going on in Palestine. I hate all of it. I believe in taxes to fund infrastructure, social programs, etc but until the status quo changes of bloat for the former and austerity for the rest, I find reducing my taxable income an ethical thing to do. But I find this an interesting argument to make. If you’re a part of the West, unless you don’t pay taxes, your money has almost certainly gone to fund some sort of neo-imperialist agenda – presumably also against your will.
I do care about Sudan and Myanmar, as I said all genocides are bad,
Great, now how are you effecting change on these besides typing words?
at YOU are directly responsible for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran
I don’t own that. IMO getting Kamala in would have been a temporary insult while getting people in Congress who take no AIPAC money and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. It’s a tactic that works. Then next presidential election with time to find non-AIPAC presidential candidates replace her. Apathy let Trump in who was actually the only one stupid enough to go to war in Iran and pour gasoline on the former issues.
How are you not making the connection that Trump back in office is a direct result of Joe Biden’s [lack of] leadership when it was desperately needed?
It’s apparent. I think the left while more principled than the right doesn’t think strategically like the right. The right shows up consistently for their agenda of hate and disenfranchisement. Meanwhile, we are willing to let it all go to hell if it means having to suffer someone we don’t agree with 95%+ because then they’re just as bad as the other person.
The right shows up because they have funding from billionaires that allows them to be bussed in to the capital en masse, get legal funds covered, influencers get paid to spread fascism all over social media. The left doesn’t have the funding in the west like the fascist billionaires give to the right.
This is recent though. The modern right galvanized on deregulation, abortion, undoing “entitlements,” and civil rights advances in the 70s-80s and showed up consistently since then at local, state and federal elections in pursuit of that. Leftists show up if they like someone and won’t if they don’t. Or at least this is my observation from living in red vs blue areas. I will concede with you though that not having funding is a relative weakness of ours and has also played a role in shaping our current environment.
You agree with someone who supports genocide 95%? I sure as hell don’t.
Trivializing important issues doesn’t make your point.
Genocide – by which I assume you singularly mean Palestine as I doubt you care as much about other ones going on (e.g.in Sudan, Myanmar) – is not the only issue. (And before you insinuate I don’t care about Gaza, I donate to organizations that provide aid there as well as other international crises as the war in the DRC, etc.) There’s other important issues like climate change, dismantling the prison industrial complex, restoring reproductive rights, healthcare reform, reigning in the surveillance techbros, etc. I assume you support at least the majority of these. These are all ‘important issues’ and losing ground on these has the potential to harm millions domestically and abroad.
If genocide is on the table, it is literally the only important issue.
As with the other commenter, I doubt you care about the genocide in Sudan or Myanmar and singularly mean Palestine. After all, we POC here in the States are so clearly expendable to you why would you care about most other POC abroad? With Palestine you get to meme on Israel all day (which is where the caring starts and ends as the online left is so averse to putting in work to effect change but somehow expect to win a revolution someday lol). With Sudan, Myanmar, there’s no reward from that as there’s no state with near the notoriety of Israel to meme on and it’s not like you’re going to actually put in work so why bother?
Genocides are bad. Your tax money and weapons of mass destruction are being used to systematically eradicate one particular people. I do care about Sudan and Myanmar, as I said all genocides are bad, the only difference is that YOU are directly responsible for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. Does that help clear things up?
Multiple bullshit wars and what’s going on in Palestine. I hate all of it. I believe in taxes to fund infrastructure, social programs, etc but until the status quo changes of bloat for the former and austerity for the rest, I find reducing my taxable income an ethical thing to do. But I find this an interesting argument to make. If you’re a part of the West, unless you don’t pay taxes, your money has almost certainly gone to fund some sort of neo-imperialist agenda – presumably also against your will.
Great, now how are you effecting change on these besides typing words?
I don’t own that. IMO getting Kamala in would have been a temporary insult while getting people in Congress who take no AIPAC money and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. It’s a tactic that works. Then next presidential election with time to find non-AIPAC presidential candidates replace her. Apathy let Trump in who was actually the only one stupid enough to go to war in Iran and pour gasoline on the former issues.
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I asked you a question. It’s a yes or no question.
You gave that percentage to make your point. Now it’s time for you to demonstrate that’s what you actually believe.
I don’t even agree with Biden or Harris or most AIPAC Dems near that much and certainly not the right. Nice attempted gotcha though.
If you weren’t talking about Biden and Harris then who were you talking about when you said