This video is by Eric Hovagim an up and coming Tankie “reporter” and in his video he even unironically leans into China is just doing a “combatting terrorism”, just like the US gov does, amongs other things to justify chinas various human rights abuses.

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  • CannonFodder
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    20 days ago

    Yes, he seems rather fucked up. Doesn’t mean he’s wrong tho. Idk. I suspect there’s some truth.

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      20 days ago

      I suspect there’s some truth.

      Sorry, I go on facts.

      Will some of those terrorists that got caught had a nice time in jail?
      Certainly not.
      Could China have made some mistakes in dealing with that difficult and dangerous situation?
      Probably.
      But they don’t have Guantanamo.
      And there certainly isn’t a genocide.
      There is simply no reason why they would want that.

      Truth is it’s they misrepresented the Chinese reaction for western propaganda.
      Also the terrorism attempts have stopped and Xinjiang is peaceful again a popular tourist spot.

      • CannonFodder
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        20 days ago

        Yes. But you don’t know what the CCP did to kill the dissent. They have a pretty nasty track record. And you don’t know they haven’t forced sterilization. Obviously it’s unfair for me to expect a negative proof. But China has killed and imprisoned many people for peaceful political protesting. So these claims fit their MO. And as you said, what they did ‘worked’. Think about that - what do you think it takes to make a group of people who want independence and freedom to give up their religion and go along with authoritarian rule?

        • Bloomcole
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          20 days ago

          You make a lot of wild claims again with zero proof.
          At best you offer ‘their MO’ which is based on the same western slander and baseless BS.

          what do you think it takes to make a group of people who want independence and freedom to give up their religion and go along with authoritarian rule?

          And there we have it, ‘authoritarian rule’.
          Looks like you pretended to want to have an open discussion and be neutral but you only faked it so you could spout your Sinophobia.

          And they weren’t ‘people who want independence and freedom’.
          They were a small group of Turkic, western and Turkish backed fanatic Islamic terrorists.
          A lot of them showing up later in Syria to help another western and Turkish backed POS headchopper islamic terrorist.
          You know, the one western governments now shake hands with.
          There and in many places the western tactic of proxy terrorists worked, it didn’t in China.
          And that’s all I’m going to say.
          I’m sure there are enough other Sinophobes here who will entertain your tired propaganda clichés on MoG, It’s the right circle jerk for that.
          I’m not one of them.

          • CannonFodder
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            19 days ago

            Are you in China rn? If you are, what happens if you protest anything the government does?
            China has terrible human rights and you know it. Yes, there’s plenty of bad examples from other countries too, but China is quite clearly one of the worst of the larger countries. You probably even have some sort of rational for the Tianamen Sq massacre; why are you so defending China so hard?

            • Bloomcole
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              19 days ago

              I’m Belgian. Despite being bombarded with anti-China propaganda I have the mental capacity to be sceptical and look up sources and facts.
              Unlike you I don’t don’t regurgitate the known liars of the western media’s claims for truth.
              And like any other country China has protests.
              Amnesty and HRW are biased sources.
              The USSA is much worse BTW.
              No country has put more of its people in jail.
              China has much better rights. You simply don’t know about that either.

              And what a surprise you drag up the Tiananmen BS.
              You’ve almost have a perfect China bad bingo card.
              Please go ahead and explain what you imagine happened, always up for a laugh.

              And why are you so defending the China bad BS so hard?

              • CannonFodder
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                19 days ago

                Seriously you need to self reflect on your projection there. I’m not sure what bs you’ve taken in about china and especially tianamen sq. Some of us watched that play out live. The amount of spin and censorship and throwing people in jail or worse that china has done just to try and hide that should give you pause before swallowing what china has ejactlated on that subject or other similar things.

                • Bloomcole
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                  19 days ago

                  Did you watch those foreign backed terrorists infiltrate a peaceful pro-communism and anti-corruption protest where they lynched police and burned them alive?

                  And still none of your explanation for what supposedly happened only baseless accusations. Go on tell me, can’t wait.
                  Who is ‘some of us’? Where they part of that anti China movement that had to run?
                  Like those scummy violent Hong Kong troublemakers?

                  • CannonFodder
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                    19 days ago

                    Wow. You are really lost. I’d say go to China and try some freedom there if you are so sure of how great they are. But I suspect you’re actually already there, and you already know all too well.