• WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 hours ago

      Thank you for providing a link.

      As I understand it, that statistic does not address whether or not having a gun in a self defense situation increases your odds of survival. It says that .09% of people with a gun ever use it in self defense.

      That is the equivalent to saying that the vast majority of people who own a fire-extinguisher never put out a fire. I don’t want to have to put out a fire, but I own an extinguisher, just like I hope to never be in an armed altercation, but I own a firearm. I’d wager that most people who own any kind of self defense equipment may never need to use them.

      You may not like this source, but they are citing FBI statistics that are genuine to my knowledge: https://www.shootingclasses.com/blog/posts/what-the-fbi-data-really-says-about-self-defense-shootings-and-why-most-cpl-classes-miss-the-mark/

      It says that over 50% of altercations involving a gun are ended when the gun is presented and not fired. A gun is presented in an altercation over 1 million times per year in the US, so that makes a minimum of 500,000 altercations that were concluded due to the appearance of a gun. Similar numbers have been presented in every safety class I’ve taken along with accompanying videos of that happening.

      For what it’s worth, a gun is only one part of the gear I carry. I like to be prepared. I also carry a first aid kit, flashlight, leatherman, knife, compass, mirror, and other useful items on my body nearly at all times. I live inside of hundreds of miles of wilderness—it isn’t just humans I am preparing for the possibility of encountering.

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        2 hours ago

        Of course I’m not going to give any weight to an obvious propaganda site… ROFL

        I mean did you even look at the “supported organizations” it reads like a who’s who of extreme gun nuts.

        • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 minutes ago

          Do you dispute that they are quoting FBI data? I’m not trying to be deceptive, I was looking for an overview that reflects the facts that have been presented in every safety class I’ve taken. I found similar numbers in other articles, that one just had the best formatting for presenting the same information.

          Also, do you see what I mean when I say that your statistic of .09% is not accurately reflecting if a gun is an effective self defense method?