• GirthBrooksPLO
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      17 hours ago

      Why? Because the alternative will lead to people watching their loved ones get hurt or die. People are used to a peaceful existence for the most part, and particularly in the US, food and medicine being regularly available.

      If we have to shoot our way out, many will pay a grave cost. I’m not saying it’s not a potential outcome, and if it comes to that, it is what it is, but I don’t blame people for wanting to find any alternative that doesn’t involve the complete social collapse of a civilization.

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        17 hours ago

        Multilateral approaches to revolution are statistically way more successful. Meaning there have to be multiple factions but usually some use force or threat of force to back up the peaceful majority. Thems be the facts

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        16 hours ago

        Obviously a violent approach shouldn’t be chosen first or lightly or at all if possible—but that doesn’t mean people can’t and shouldn’t start taking steps to defend themselves from illegal violence from the ruling class.

        People right now can learn how to operate, maintain and store firearms safely. People right now can form militias and community defense groups as a deterrence from the ruling class violence.

        None of that have to mean performing acts of violence, but can help us have a stronger position to bargain in the future.

      • bthest
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        14 hours ago

        Well if fighting is too high a cost then you could just live with and just accept the new order and probably live a completely normalish life assuming climate collapse isn’t as bad as projected.

        Which I’m afraid is what most people will end up doing.

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      19 hours ago

      Because you voted your way into this

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        16 hours ago

        Technically people didn’t vote their way into this if we are to believe the second election was rigged… but that doesn’t matter now does it

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          18 hours ago

          Unless you’re dead, you can at least try. Beats folding your arms and complaining that this jumping strategy pails in comparison with your superiour strategy of wishing really hard you could fly.

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            17 hours ago

            We need to go full Albania 🇦🇱 ✊🏼

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            18 hours ago

            You wouldn’t even have time to fold your arms before you were dead. Being able to jump into the lava doesn’t imply that jumping can save you from lava.

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              Well, you aren’t dead yet, aren’t you. Means that wasn’t that deadly of a lava, so maybe try to jump instead of trying to convince everyone around that we’re already burned to crisps, so no point to even try. We aren’t, not yet, that’s demonstrable by the fact that we’re still talking about it.

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      18 hours ago

      Genuine questions: then what is the solution and how have you contributed to it?

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        16 hours ago

        Genuine answer: organizing with your fellow people, and forming communities. It’s not an accident that seems such a monumental task today when historically it was the only reason people survived hardship.

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        17 hours ago

        What are you looking for me to tell you everything I’ve done and hope you think it’s enough? Pathetic. Kick rocks

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            15 hours ago

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