The pub doesn’t buy it, the customers in the pub buy it. It’s been pretty common (in places I’ve lived) for decades - traditionally it was heroin users stealing and selling.
It’s not as common now, as there’s fewer pubs and they’re a lot more expensive (and richer people are less likely to want cash-in-hand stolen bacon), and everyone buys things with trackable card payments - but when I was younger, bacon, cheese, perfume, cigarettes, casettes, CDs, DVDs etc could all be bought off “smackies” at your local pub.
I see this same line of thinking in other comments. People shoplifting expensive items on a regular basis are usually trying to pay for illegal and frankly dangerous drugs, past or near future use. If it’s past, it’s entirely possible they are also prostituted and trapped in an endless debt cycle. If they get caught their “body guard” (pimp) may or not post bail, but either way, some sort of additional monetary charge will be added. I’m really not sure what the answer to this capitalist hell is beyond:
If it’s a small amount of food occasionally, you saw nothing. Beyond that, whether or not intervention will break the cycle and have a positive effect for the individual is a craps shoot on too many unknown variables to predict.
So a apparently decades long black market for food doesn’t alarm you… Doesn’t tell you anything about society. More expensive items. I’m sure things that don’t need to be refrigerated are a bigger problem.
mate people selling stolen food (and any other goods) at a lower price than the producers themselves has been a thing since forever, it doesn’t say anything about anything.
Mate… (please don’t use backhanded terms of flattery when you are talking about essential needs.) was that bacon going to be in your empty stomach? Are you just upset about the millions of pounds of food the UK while children in the UK have malnutrition?
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Businesses do buy stolen meat or supplies. There just has to be a crooked kitchen manager or owner who knows a guy. Of course they’d like to save 50%.
But my point is the problem is in the system(s) that allows for things to get so bad people are stealing and buying stolen goods to get by. Even more so when there’s more than enough to go around. No one was going to go hungry in the UK because food is being stolen. People are going hungry because of society has become pay to win.
People steal and make money on the black market whether the economy is good or bad. Crime like that goes up in dire economic times, but it’s not even remotely exclusive to dire economic times. Stealing meat and selling it is much more about funding drug habits than staving off starvation.
OK, what point are you trying to make? The discussion I was having is about when people go into a grocery store and fill up their cart with expensive items that they can resell, and then walk out. Then they go and sell them for cash. Saying that malnutrition has increased is in no way connecting those two things.
When people are hungry I would think they would steal food and eat it, not go sell it. I suppose they could steal expensive items and sell them for cash and then go buy less expensive food? Not even sure if that’s what you’re trying to say. I don’t think we’re discussing the same thing.
What pub is buying random meat from people off the street? What person would do that, let alone a business. Ps people need protein
The pub doesn’t buy it, the customers in the pub buy it. It’s been pretty common (in places I’ve lived) for decades - traditionally it was heroin users stealing and selling.
It’s not as common now, as there’s fewer pubs and they’re a lot more expensive (and richer people are less likely to want cash-in-hand stolen bacon), and everyone buys things with trackable card payments - but when I was younger, bacon, cheese, perfume, cigarettes, casettes, CDs, DVDs etc could all be bought off “smackies” at your local pub.
I see this same line of thinking in other comments. People shoplifting expensive items on a regular basis are usually trying to pay for illegal and frankly dangerous drugs, past or near future use. If it’s past, it’s entirely possible they are also prostituted and trapped in an endless debt cycle. If they get caught their “body guard” (pimp) may or not post bail, but either way, some sort of additional monetary charge will be added. I’m really not sure what the answer to this capitalist hell is beyond:
If it’s a small amount of food occasionally, you saw nothing. Beyond that, whether or not intervention will break the cycle and have a positive effect for the individual is a craps shoot on too many unknown variables to predict.
So a apparently decades long black market for food doesn’t alarm you… Doesn’t tell you anything about society. More expensive items. I’m sure things that don’t need to be refrigerated are a bigger problem.
mate people selling stolen food (and any other goods) at a lower price than the producers themselves has been a thing since forever, it doesn’t say anything about anything.
Mate… (please don’t use backhanded terms of flattery when you are talking about essential needs.) was that bacon going to be in your empty stomach? Are you just upset about the millions of pounds of food the UK while children in the UK have malnutrition?
Some Businesses do buy stolen meat or supplies. There just has to be a crooked kitchen manager or owner who knows a guy. Of course they’d like to save 50%.
But my point is the problem is in the system(s) that allows for things to get so bad people are stealing and buying stolen goods to get by. Even more so when there’s more than enough to go around. No one was going to go hungry in the UK because food is being stolen. People are going hungry because of society has become pay to win.
People steal and make money on the black market whether the economy is good or bad. Crime like that goes up in dire economic times, but it’s not even remotely exclusive to dire economic times. Stealing meat and selling it is much more about funding drug habits than staving off starvation.
You do know the UK publishs info on malnutrition in the kingdom… Right…
OK, what point are you trying to make? The discussion I was having is about when people go into a grocery store and fill up their cart with expensive items that they can resell, and then walk out. Then they go and sell them for cash. Saying that malnutrition has increased is in no way connecting those two things.
When people are hungry I would think they would steal food and eat it, not go sell it. I suppose they could steal expensive items and sell them for cash and then go buy less expensive food? Not even sure if that’s what you’re trying to say. I don’t think we’re discussing the same thing.