Meat has a bad reputation. Most people think of meat, especially red meat, as dangerously unhealthy. However, meat has unique properties that make it more nutritious, easier to digest, and less likely to irritate your body than vegetables. Does the science behind meat-phobia hold up under the microscope?
TLDR - Yes, meat is healthy - eat it.
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i’ll tell you what: i opened every one of those links, then i went ahead and started clicking through to the actual papers. when you can present a peer reviewed study and explain how the methodology led to the conclusion you are making here, i’ll be happy to discuss that paper (or all of them. i think you’ll find that the gish gallop of links you dropped here actually draw on about 12 different studies, but most of them rely heavily on poore-nemecek 2018, so you could start there if you like.)
edit: a word of warning. the earth.org link is a mess. i was able to find most of the other papers, but i doubt you’re going to find that to be a worthwhile or even fruitful venture. sticking with the stanford link should still glean you about 6 or 7 papers we can evaluate together.
jesus. here’s how i spent the last 20 minutes. this is before even reading the research:
The person your talking to hasn’t read their own sources, wont read them, uses a “fast” llm to generate “whataboutisms”, and will pivot the conversation as soon as you nail anything down. They WANT to burn you out with asymmetric effort.
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this is just an admission that you don’t know what the literature says.
Here is a simple rule - Don’t cite a reference in a argument unless you have READ IT ALREADY.
We want you to read the papers you cite. Please. So we can discuss them. But a better community for this would be an ecological one, since none of these papers relate to nutrition or metabolic health.
Look, don’t cite papers you haven’t read, because this is what happens.
cattywumpus, that is the crux of this ridiculously deep thread, as we keep trying to tell you. This is why [citation needed] exists on Wikipedia.
Also, it’s off-topic! The OP is about meat being a superior source of nutrition, and not about the ecology of producing meat. We have indulged you this once, but please stay on topic next time. One more time: c/carnivore is a community for metabolic health discussion.
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We have addressed this point multiple times.
You seem to have difficulty comprehending this, so for the last time, in very simple words: unhealthy people cost society a lot of money. We are living proof of zero carb’s effectiveness. I was pre-diabetic. Everyone on Dave Mac’s channel No Carb Life (@zerocarb) had a health problem that was put into remission with zerocarb.
I’m afraid I will have to put you into time-out if you insist on bringing up points that we have brought up before, because this discussion has become meaningless. I’d lock this thread if I could.