I see your point, but it is important to realise that humans in general are creatures of belief. A person can make claim to have no beliefs, but it only takes a moment of observation to see through and identify what a person revolves their lives around.
Secular states, as I’ve noticed, are prone to falling into identity cults, whether it be Nazi Germany, North Korea or even modern day America, just to name a few.
The underlying problem to me, isn’t religion but cultism itself and I identify cultism as an obsession to the point of causing harm to oneself and others.
Cults can exist in every religion but not every cult has a religion.
We live in an age of material cults, or profit cults as I call them. They won’t stop their behaviour even when the graph rising doesn’t make any sense nor as their companies fall apart because that’s where their instinctive obsession lies.
I’m not sure if any here is claiming to not have any belief, belief is not the same as religion, when you look at a mountain you believe there is actually a mountain there, it’s not exactly some metaphysical, supernatural event happening to you.
The difference isn’t in the existence of belief, but whether it is backed up by actual evidence or not, whether experimentation supports it or not, it has to be supported by concert reality, or it isn’t real. (or at least it isn’t reasonable to believe it is real unless new evidence comes forward that changes that and makes it reasonable)
As humans aren’t omniscient infinite all knowing beings, we are force to make assumption IE “believe our eyes and ears” just to be able to function in reality, it is a perpetual imperfect information game, so to speak.
BTW you’ve been feed a lot of lies and nonsense from Capitalist controlled propaganda, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is an actual democracy, unlike Capitalist countries like the US, the DPRK has a Dictatorship of the Proletariat (working class)
instead of the inherently anti democratic Dictatorship of the Bourgeois (capitalist class, those who own capital, which isn’t the same as money, IE “believing in capitalism” doesn’t make you a capitalist) that every Capitalist country has by the nature of it being Capitalist.
I don’t not see cults as being fundamentally different to religions, only superficially, aesthetically, in insignificant ways that doesn’t actually matter.
“Material cults” doesn’t make sense, our very existence is entirely within the framework of physics, of the mass and energy of our universe, and there aren’t components outside of this nor could there be, as it is the very connections between things that makes reality in the first place, anything unconnected is the same as not existing as far as we are concerned, and the moment you are influence by said hypothetical unconnected thing, it is longer unconnected and therefore part of reality, “Material”.
As for “profit cults”, this isn’t metaphysical “greed” popping into existence from contradictory non-existence that cannot exist by definition and therefore can’t a a source for which things (like “greed”) can come, but the economical, political, and class nature of the social fabric that exists in Capitalism, and especially in it’s Monopoly IE Imperialist stage.
The material conditions determines conscious, so in Capitalist society people grow into a conscious in support of exploitation, cut throat competition, zero sum “win/lose”, in other words, so called “greed”.
However, the vast majority is under the boot of being exploited above and over any opportunity to exploit others, so this oppression also serves as a source of pressure for the pursuit of a different ways of doing things. It is part of the dialectical opposition between the interests of the capitalist class and the working class that makes it a matter of “who is on top, a few capitalist parasites, or the vast majority who is doing all the work anyways” until the existence of class itself can finally fade away in the process of building Communism.
P.S. Also the falling apart company profit stuff is because Capitalism is inherently unsustainable, and would happen regardless.
I see your point, but it is important to realise that humans in general are creatures of belief. A person can make claim to have no beliefs, but it only takes a moment of observation to see through and identify what a person revolves their lives around.
Secular states, as I’ve noticed, are prone to falling into identity cults, whether it be Nazi Germany, North Korea or even modern day America, just to name a few.
The underlying problem to me, isn’t religion but cultism itself and I identify cultism as an obsession to the point of causing harm to oneself and others.
Cults can exist in every religion but not every cult has a religion.
We live in an age of material cults, or profit cults as I call them. They won’t stop their behaviour even when the graph rising doesn’t make any sense nor as their companies fall apart because that’s where their instinctive obsession lies.
I’m not sure if any here is claiming to not have any belief, belief is not the same as religion, when you look at a mountain you believe there is actually a mountain there, it’s not exactly some metaphysical, supernatural event happening to you. The difference isn’t in the existence of belief, but whether it is backed up by actual evidence or not, whether experimentation supports it or not, it has to be supported by concert reality, or it isn’t real. (or at least it isn’t reasonable to believe it is real unless new evidence comes forward that changes that and makes it reasonable) As humans aren’t omniscient infinite all knowing beings, we are force to make assumption IE “believe our eyes and ears” just to be able to function in reality, it is a perpetual imperfect information game, so to speak.
BTW you’ve been feed a lot of lies and nonsense from Capitalist controlled propaganda, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is an actual democracy, unlike Capitalist countries like the US, the DPRK has a Dictatorship of the Proletariat (working class) instead of the inherently anti democratic Dictatorship of the Bourgeois (capitalist class, those who own capital, which isn’t the same as money, IE “believing in capitalism” doesn’t make you a capitalist) that every Capitalist country has by the nature of it being Capitalist.
I don’t not see cults as being fundamentally different to religions, only superficially, aesthetically, in insignificant ways that doesn’t actually matter.
“Material cults” doesn’t make sense, our very existence is entirely within the framework of physics, of the mass and energy of our universe, and there aren’t components outside of this nor could there be, as it is the very connections between things that makes reality in the first place, anything unconnected is the same as not existing as far as we are concerned, and the moment you are influence by said hypothetical unconnected thing, it is longer unconnected and therefore part of reality, “Material”. As for “profit cults”, this isn’t metaphysical “greed” popping into existence from contradictory non-existence that cannot exist by definition and therefore can’t a a source for which things (like “greed”) can come, but the economical, political, and class nature of the social fabric that exists in Capitalism, and especially in it’s Monopoly IE Imperialist stage. The material conditions determines conscious, so in Capitalist society people grow into a conscious in support of exploitation, cut throat competition, zero sum “win/lose”, in other words, so called “greed”. However, the vast majority is under the boot of being exploited above and over any opportunity to exploit others, so this oppression also serves as a source of pressure for the pursuit of a different ways of doing things. It is part of the dialectical opposition between the interests of the capitalist class and the working class that makes it a matter of “who is on top, a few capitalist parasites, or the vast majority who is doing all the work anyways” until the existence of class itself can finally fade away in the process of building Communism. P.S. Also the falling apart company profit stuff is because Capitalism is inherently unsustainable, and would happen regardless.