Romance isn’t quite my jam (I prefer it to be the B plot to a good A plot, rather than the inverse), but sci fi and fantasy romance stories are much more to my tastes than the old school stuff because I too can’t stand contemporary fiction.
And yeah I’m of mixed feelings on it. The backlash is real and feels very misogynistic, but also real is the slop and ravenous fan bases. But I can’t judge, I prefer to read queer speculative fiction, and it’s absolutely no better. In general I’d really just like a lot of these authors to consume something not deeply entiwined with fanfic and to step outside fanfic tags. A heavy fanfic influence can go awesome, Tamsyn Muir is one of my favorite authors, but a lot of authors that came up in fanfic could really use ths range to move beyond it as well.
And beyond that, I’ve seen pulp readers judge romantasy and that’s funny. For all my criticisms of romantasy, pulp is worse. And even the so called golden age of sci fi had so much garbage. We remember the Dune and the Clarke and the Asimov and the LeGuinn, but a) for each one worth remembering there’s a lot that isn’t and b) (personal opinion) modern authors do a better job of making books easier to get into. Like I love LeGuinn, The Left Hand of Darkness is an all time classic, but it absolutely is throwing a lot at you without hooking you in until well into the book.
I worked at a library when I was a teen and I just remember all the romance novels looked the same, same storyline, same character types, just all the same stuff. Which is totally fine if that’s your thing, but it definitely is not my thing. When I first read Hunt the Stars, it showed me that romance isn’t all the same, that you can get good science fiction within a love story. I don’t read exclusively scifi romance, but it gets it my rotation fairly often now. I still do read primarily scifi though.
The backlash is real and feels misogynistic, but also real is the slop and ravenous fan bases
I totally get this. I’ve heard the Fourth Wing fan base gets crazy and the romantasy fan base in general is bad. I’ve heard of the drama in BookTok spaces and I want nothing to do with it. This is why I avoid pretty much all big fan bases of anything I truly enjoy, there’s always someone who will ruin it for me.
And beyond that, I’ve seen pulp readers judge romantasy and that’s funny. For all my criticisms of romantasy, pulp is worse
I never got why people get so judgy on what a person reads, criticism is ok, but some folks can get nasty. I’ve had people make snarky remarks on my love of scifi I’ve heard someone refer to superhero stuff as “stupid nerd shit”. I’ve even heard someone criticize people who don’t enjoy romance because “those people have no heart or soul”. Idgaf what someone reads as long as they read. It may not be for me, but just pick up a damn book!
Romance isn’t quite my jam (I prefer it to be the B plot to a good A plot, rather than the inverse), but sci fi and fantasy romance stories are much more to my tastes than the old school stuff because I too can’t stand contemporary fiction.
And yeah I’m of mixed feelings on it. The backlash is real and feels very misogynistic, but also real is the slop and ravenous fan bases. But I can’t judge, I prefer to read queer speculative fiction, and it’s absolutely no better. In general I’d really just like a lot of these authors to consume something not deeply entiwined with fanfic and to step outside fanfic tags. A heavy fanfic influence can go awesome, Tamsyn Muir is one of my favorite authors, but a lot of authors that came up in fanfic could really use ths range to move beyond it as well.
And beyond that, I’ve seen pulp readers judge romantasy and that’s funny. For all my criticisms of romantasy, pulp is worse. And even the so called golden age of sci fi had so much garbage. We remember the Dune and the Clarke and the Asimov and the LeGuinn, but a) for each one worth remembering there’s a lot that isn’t and b) (personal opinion) modern authors do a better job of making books easier to get into. Like I love LeGuinn, The Left Hand of Darkness is an all time classic, but it absolutely is throwing a lot at you without hooking you in until well into the book.
I worked at a library when I was a teen and I just remember all the romance novels looked the same, same storyline, same character types, just all the same stuff. Which is totally fine if that’s your thing, but it definitely is not my thing. When I first read Hunt the Stars, it showed me that romance isn’t all the same, that you can get good science fiction within a love story. I don’t read exclusively scifi romance, but it gets it my rotation fairly often now. I still do read primarily scifi though.
I totally get this. I’ve heard the Fourth Wing fan base gets crazy and the romantasy fan base in general is bad. I’ve heard of the drama in BookTok spaces and I want nothing to do with it. This is why I avoid pretty much all big fan bases of anything I truly enjoy, there’s always someone who will ruin it for me.
I never got why people get so judgy on what a person reads, criticism is ok, but some folks can get nasty. I’ve had people make snarky remarks on my love of scifi I’ve heard someone refer to superhero stuff as “stupid nerd shit”. I’ve even heard someone criticize people who don’t enjoy romance because “those people have no heart or soul”. Idgaf what someone reads as long as they read. It may not be for me, but just pick up a damn book!