• CapuccinoCoretto
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    2 months ago

    All interesting points, yet if you turned off fossil fuels tomorrow Quebec would be crushed economically. You can’t do it yet we can’t do it yet. If you tried with an autocratic wave of a gun you would also be killing millions.

    Your ambulances, firetrucks, restaurants and farms etc, all use it despite having a superabundance of alternative energy. The rest of the world have a much less opportunity to switch.

    Until we do make the switch, without killing millions upon millions, it’s a neccessary evil. We must end it. Until we do, it has to come from somewhere.

    I was a big fan of the carbon tax. It was a politically expedient, but ultimate mistake to remove it that shows a lack of leadership and quite frankly, shows how stupid your average Canadian is. It’s going to set our transition back a decade.

    Europe couldn’t do without even in a proxy war over Ukraine, they were buying it from Russia! That should help you understand how not ready we are.

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        2 months ago

        I think their point is that it’s not just energy that we get from oil, but lubricants, rubbers, solvents, asphalt, plastics, and so on…

        EV only tackle the energy part. They still need tyres, seals and gaskets, insulation, road surfaces, and more…

        To be rid of oil is a huge undertaking comprising thousands of individual cases of finding renewable alternatives or stopping use entirely. Which is why we need to be working to remove oil from every step today, not partially removing three steps because it’s cheap and distracts environmentalists from the other 14,962 steps.

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          2 months ago

          FFS…the solution does not have to be binary, and people who claim it is are just trying to defeat efforts.

          We don’t need to eliminate hydrocarbon use, we just need to reduce it to a level the planet can buffer.

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            2 months ago

            But the amount we could buffer was 400ppm and 1.5°C. We’re way past that. We need to go to zero emissions, then negative emissions.