it’s worth remembering the was one of the first to withdraw her presidential bid in 2020 because it was abundantly obvious no one was interested. she was selected as Joe Biden’s running mate to make him look more progressive than he was and to groom her for the national stage. it is abundantly clear now that the nation at large is not interested for a variety of reasons. the left sees in her the conservatism of the democratic party over the last 40 years. the right sees a variety of things depending on how their brains are broken:
The American left needs to fall out of love with cannibalism.
I don’t care why Harris wants to do the right thing now.
Allow people to save face and change their positions - attacking them for “flip flops” is to say “No reasonable adult should ever change their mind about anything” which is not only bananas, but discourages people from doing critical thinking because they’d face humiliation for reversing course.
This isn’t purity testing, this is predicting that she isn’t going to advance any of our interests based on her history of being more willing to lose to Donald fucking Trump than advance any of our interests.
She knew supporting genocide would decrease the number of people who would vote for her, she knew supporting war would decrease the number of people who would vote for her, she knew supporting ICE would decrease the number of people who would vote for her. She chose to embrace these policies anyway.
While I agree, she’s pressured into it because she wants power and the trend is clear. She’s a plastic bag blowing in the wind.
And She’ll flip on us as soon as she’s voted in! She’s willing to be a shill towards the progressives to get their votes.
Just like Biden, yes.
No argument here, but I still prefer this to the alternative
Yeah, I know what you mean. I am kind of like Yay! Fuck Israel but cautious because Kamala.
I really like seeing this nice conversation with all valid points. It’s rare anywhere online. Appreciate you all.
She doesn’t have any tangible political power and probably never will again, so there’s that
it’s worth remembering the was one of the first to withdraw her presidential bid in 2020 because it was abundantly obvious no one was interested. she was selected as Joe Biden’s running mate to make him look more progressive than he was and to groom her for the national stage. it is abundantly clear now that the nation at large is not interested for a variety of reasons. the left sees in her the conservatism of the democratic party over the last 40 years. the right sees a variety of things depending on how their brains are broken:
Oh I think you left one word off that list at the end, but its not one I’m willing yo repeat.
“forced diversity”
Wanting to start again
Wouldn’t a plastic bag float in the wind?
The American left needs to fall out of love with cannibalism.
I don’t care why Harris wants to do the right thing now.
Allow people to save face and change their positions - attacking them for “flip flops” is to say “No reasonable adult should ever change their mind about anything” which is not only bananas, but discourages people from doing critical thinking because they’d face humiliation for reversing course.
I don’t believe she actually does want to do the right thing, now or ever.
in politics, words are cheap. I’ll believe her when she DOES something significant to demonstrate her new found beliefs. Until then, doubt.
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Purity test is a lazy dumb concept used to shut down discussion when you have no real arguments to present
This isn’t purity testing, this is predicting that she isn’t going to advance any of our interests based on her history of being more willing to lose to Donald fucking Trump than advance any of our interests.
She knew supporting genocide would decrease the number of people who would vote for her, she knew supporting war would decrease the number of people who would vote for her, she knew supporting ICE would decrease the number of people who would vote for her. She chose to embrace these policies anyway.
She’s not Saul on the road to Damascus here.
She’s Faust swearing to burn his books long after he damned himself.
Can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding.
…and Jalad at Tanagra.