First of all, the entire discussion depends on what one means by ‘capitalism’ and ‘communism’, since there aren’t really countries that only employ concepts from one system.
Generally, it seems we can mix and pick the best parts of both. So far it’s working quite well in several European countries, especially Norway, Sweden, and Finland. Of course, they’re far from perfect. Perhaps due to still too many capitalist policies, or maybe because mixing capitalism with socialism has its limits and we need a fundamentally different system to progress further.
You must be delusional for stating that the Nordic countries are doing “quite well”. The nordic model was always a lie, and it has been steadily killed by the people in charge since the USSR fell. Capitalism is and always has been only making lives worse for the working people, in the nords as well as globally. An absurd claim devoid of facts based on material reality.
Do you know of a report / article detailing the decline of Nordic Social Democracy? I’ve seen a Nordic comrade or two say the same thing but didn’t go into detail. It would be good to have it on hand to explain why Social Democracy isn’t a solution along with Second Thought’s video.
Capitalism and socialism are not slices of a system, but modes of production and distribution. Welfare in the context of a capitalist economy is not socialism, just like limited private property within socialism is not actually capitalism.
As for the Nordic countries, they only “work” because they rely on imperialism and neocolonialism for their safety nets as the price of class collaborationism. The only way to have safety nets that good while also being thoroughly capitalist is to siphon the wealth from the global south, creating what Engels calls a “bourgeois proletariat.”
Socialism and eventually communism is the correct course.
First of all, the entire discussion depends on what one means by ‘capitalism’ and ‘communism’, since there aren’t really countries that only employ concepts from one system.
Generally, it seems we can mix and pick the best parts of both. So far it’s working quite well in several European countries, especially Norway, Sweden, and Finland. Of course, they’re far from perfect. Perhaps due to still too many capitalist policies, or maybe because mixing capitalism with socialism has its limits and we need a fundamentally different system to progress further.
You must be delusional for stating that the Nordic countries are doing “quite well”. The nordic model was always a lie, and it has been steadily killed by the people in charge since the USSR fell. Capitalism is and always has been only making lives worse for the working people, in the nords as well as globally. An absurd claim devoid of facts based on material reality.
Do you know of a report / article detailing the decline of Nordic Social Democracy? I’ve seen a Nordic comrade or two say the same thing but didn’t go into detail. It would be good to have it on hand to explain why Social Democracy isn’t a solution along with Second Thought’s video.
No, unfortunately I don’t know of any such reports or studies. I’d be interested in reading some for sure
Capitalism and socialism are not slices of a system, but modes of production and distribution. Welfare in the context of a capitalist economy is not socialism, just like limited private property within socialism is not actually capitalism.
As for the Nordic countries, they only “work” because they rely on imperialism and neocolonialism for their safety nets as the price of class collaborationism. The only way to have safety nets that good while also being thoroughly capitalist is to siphon the wealth from the global south, creating what Engels calls a “bourgeois proletariat.”
Socialism and eventually communism is the correct course.