True, but people who want to die will find a way. When I was younger I remember there was a sudden influx of people who realized you could speed into the back of an 18 wheeler and the hood/bottom of your car would go under, and the payload crate would crush your head/upper body near instantly.
When you’re really depressed, simple barriers like that can make a big difference. I believe antidepressants can sometimes cause suicide because the patient finally feels ready to go out of their daily routine and get it done. And I can tell you anecdotally that if my mom kept a gun in my house I’d have been dead for over 20 years now. But all my options were unreliable or painful, so I just hid in my hole instead.
I agree. I’ve been 18 for near 19 years now, and have owned at least 1 gun for 17 of them. The 1 year was a choice when I was depressed, not the only time I was… But I understand your thoughts there.
Hope you’re doing better now. Depression and suicide fucking suck, I’ve lost too many close family and friends to it. I’m fighting that black dog now too.
Yep. Twice I’ve had black dudes try to suicide-by-cop on me and twice they failed to achieve it. They apologized afterward, admitting that they assumed the stereotype was true and not only was their death guaranteed but I wouldn’t feel anything about it.
Both would have likely just been recorded as “attempted murder” on me and “justified shooting” without their words after the fact indicating they were attempting suicide.
Not sure about pills, but most of East Asia has a special hatred for drugs because of the opium crisis back in the 1800s or so. Sometimes I wonder if all the fentanyl coming from China or made with Chinese precurso ingredients is subtle revenge.
That might actually be more about the guns than the despair
True, but people who want to die will find a way. When I was younger I remember there was a sudden influx of people who realized you could speed into the back of an 18 wheeler and the hood/bottom of your car would go under, and the payload crate would crush your head/upper body near instantly.
When you’re really depressed, simple barriers like that can make a big difference. I believe antidepressants can sometimes cause suicide because the patient finally feels ready to go out of their daily routine and get it done. And I can tell you anecdotally that if my mom kept a gun in my house I’d have been dead for over 20 years now. But all my options were unreliable or painful, so I just hid in my hole instead.
I agree. I’ve been 18 for near 19 years now, and have owned at least 1 gun for 17 of them. The 1 year was a choice when I was depressed, not the only time I was… But I understand your thoughts there.
Hope you’re doing better now. Depression and suicide fucking suck, I’ve lost too many close family and friends to it. I’m fighting that black dog now too.
Human behaviour is formed by both individual traits and their environment. When there are easy and effective suicide options available, suicide numbers tend to be higher. See e.g. https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-releases/about-740000-global-deaths-suicide-occur-annually-thats-one
That number probably doesn’t even count the suicide by cop. Lots of black men do stupid shit to get people to shoot them too, Ive heard it said
Yep. Twice I’ve had black dudes try to suicide-by-cop on me and twice they failed to achieve it. They apologized afterward, admitting that they assumed the stereotype was true and not only was their death guaranteed but I wouldn’t feel anything about it.
Both would have likely just been recorded as “attempted murder” on me and “justified shooting” without their words after the fact indicating they were attempting suicide.
I also wonder if drugs are as widely available? Some people just take a bunch of pills.
Not sure about pills, but most of East Asia has a special hatred for drugs because of the opium crisis back in the 1800s or so. Sometimes I wonder if all the fentanyl coming from China or made with Chinese precurso ingredients is subtle revenge.